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Best Michael Jackson Editorial yet(5 posts)

Best Michael Jackson Editorial yetjrm
Nov 19, 2003 3:09 PM
Michael needs psychiatric help I'm afraidColnagoFE
Nov 19, 2003 3:32 PM
That boy just ain't right. I feel kind of sorry for him and especially sorry for any kids he has [allegedly of course] molested along the way.
Yeah, prison rape jokes are a scream128
Nov 20, 2003 7:25 AM
Funny editorial and I do think MJ is probably unstable (though I also guess it's part of the act to a degree)

But joking about male prison rape, and that's it's just ok to do so, irks me.
watching the history channel this morning--prison reformColnagoFE
Nov 20, 2003 8:04 AM
I was surprised to see that "modern" prisons--using a prison term as a method of punishment anyway--have only been around for about 200 years. And the original ones were designed by Quakers who wanted a more humane way to reform prisoners. Prior to that the prisons were mainly holding cells. Prisoners were held until trial and then given a punishment--usually public humiliation or things like whipping for minor crimes and death by hanging for anything more serious. No moderate pushishments. The prison stay was supposed to be a moderate punishement where the prisoners would reflect (in silence) and thus be reformed. Soon though the focus became more on punishment and the whippings and psychological torture came back. Cut to today. Does anyone still really believe that prison reforms?
redemption through penitence (penitentiary) and the Panopticon128
Nov 20, 2003 9:16 AM
or do we even want it to reform, or just punish?
A grizzly, fascinating topic imo.

Vague recollections of acedamia:
The belief was society harmed a person and made them bad. This led to public demonstrations (flogging, hanging)in order to put the individual in public view to correct society through fear.

Later, the belief was that the individual harmed society, and we needed to take the individual out of society to protect society.

Quakers bring in the notion of penitence and the reform movement is born.

Jeremy Benthams 'Panopticon' always struck me as chilling.

Below is a paste from Google:

The Panopticon
The Panopticon of Jeremy Bentham is an architectural figure which "incorporates a tower central to an annular building that is divided into cells, each cell extending the entire thickness of the building to allow inner and outer windows. The occupants of the cells . . . are thus backlit, isolated from one another by walls, and subject to scrutiny both collectively and individually by an observer in the tower who remains unseen. Toward this end, Bentham envisioned not only venetian blinds on the tower observation ports but also mazelike connections among tower rooms to avoid glints of light or noise that might betray the presence of an observer."

The Panopticon thus allows seeing without being seen. 'Such asymmetry of seeing-without-being-seen is, in fact, the very essence of power for Foucault because ultimately, the power to dominate rests on the differential posession of knowledge'"("Subject" 223).