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Link between Saddam and Bin Laden(8 posts)

Link between Saddam and Bin LadenLive Steam
Nov 15, 2003 8:07 AM
We will wait to see how long "real" news media take to report this.

http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/42706.htm

November 15, 2003 -- Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein gave terror lord Osama bin Laden's thugs financial and logistical support, offering al Qaeda money, training and haven for more than a decade, it was reported yesterday.
Their deadly collaboration - which may have included the bombing of the USS Cole and the 9/11 attacks - is revealed in a 16-page memo to the Senate Intelligence Committee that cites reports from a variety of domestic and foreign spy agencies compiled by multiple sources, The Weekly Standard reports.

Saddam's willingness to help bin Laden plot against Americans began in 1990, shortly before the first Gulf War, and continued through last March, the eve of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, says the Oct. 27 memo sent by Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith.

Two men were involved with the collaboration almost from its start.

Mamdouh Mahmud Salim - who's described as the terror lord's "best friend" - was involved in planning the bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998.

Another terrorist, Hassan al-Turabi, was said by an Iraqi defector to be "instrumental" in the relationship.

Iraq "sought al Qaeda influence through its connections with Afghanistan, to facilitate the transshipment of proscribed weapons and equipment to Iraq. In return, Iraq provided al Qaeda with training and instructors," a top-level Iraqi defector has told U.S. intelligence.



The bombshell report says bin Laden visited Baghdad in January 1998 and met with Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz.

"The goal of the visit was to arrange for coordination between Iraq and bin Laden and establish camps in an-Nasiriyah and Iraqi Kurdistan," the memo says.

Though the bombing of the USS Cole on Oct. 12, 2000 was an al Qaeda job, the secret memo says the CIA believes "fragmentary evidence points to possible Iraqi involvement."

The relationship between Saddam and bin Laden continued to grow in the aftermath of the Cole attack when two al Qaeda terrorists were deployed to Iraq to be trained in weapons of mass destruction and to obtain information on "poisons and gases."

CIA reporting shows the Saudi National Guard went on a "kingdom-wide state of alert in late December 2000 after learning Saddam agreed to assist al Qaeda in attacking U.S./U.K. interests in Saudi Arabia," the memo says.

And the report contains new information about alleged meetings between 9/11 mastermind Mohamed Atta and former Iraqi intelligence chief Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir al Ani in the Czech Republic.

Even some Bush administration officials have been skeptical about a purported meeting in April 2001.

But the secret memo says Atta met two other times in Prague with al Ani, in December 1994 and June 2000. It was during one of these meetings that al Ani "ordered the [Iraqi Intelligence Service] finance officer to issue Atta funds from IIS financial holdings in the Prague office," the memo says.

The memo says the relationship between Saddam and bin Laden went forward even after 9/11.

Both sides allegedly reached a "secret deal" last year in which Iraq would provide "money and weapons" and obtain 90 Iraqi and Syrian passports for al Qaeda members.

Al Qaeda associate Abu Maseb al Zarqwari also helped set up "sleeper cells" in Baghdad starting in October 2002.

The memo was sent to Sens. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) and Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
Looks like these bastions of truth ....Live Steam
Nov 15, 2003 8:57 AM
and accuracy in reporting had it right a long time ago :O)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,3817795-103681,00.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/27/walq27.xml
First....Tri_Rich
Nov 17, 2003 9:16 AM
..How does this memo get "leaked", looks like GWB really is clamping down on those pesky leaks?

Funny how the article you sight alleges a file found intact complete with staples on the floor of a bombed building, especially since the reporter then goes on to say the file contsins information about not sending written correspondence since it might be intercepted.

Also if Al-Queda was establishing a sleeper cell in Baghdad, it clearly indicates they planned to move against Iraq not with them.
You should read before postingLive Steam
Nov 17, 2003 9:32 AM
The sleeper cell was/is intended to do damage to US troops, not the Iraqis. Additionally, you choose to believe other "leaked" info, but don't believe what doesn't fit your argument.

Conspiracy theories again? I understand :O)
Oct 2002.....?????Tri_Rich
Nov 17, 2003 10:20 AM
Giving up mighty early weren't they?
Giving up?Live Steam
Nov 17, 2003 10:31 AM
Even Saddam Hussein wasn't delusional enough to believe he could stave off defeat at the hands of the US and British military might. Oct of 2002 was early enough before the invasion for Al Queda to establish a home field advantage. This was reported by many as a probable tactic, before the coalition invaded Iraq. It isn't a surprise to anyone.
So Bush is still in the dark.Poseur
Nov 17, 2003 2:09 PM
So now Bush has to revise his story again to confirm the NY Post/Enquirer piece? You're making it mighty complicated for your man.
I read this today on my favorite Liberal sourcekilimanjaro
Nov 18, 2003 4:39 PM
http://slate.msn.com//id/2091381/

The article actually criticizes main stream media for not following up on. Of course some possible explanations are rather damming to the administration.

Another article that re-visits the Cech connection

http://slate.msn.com/id/2091354/

In both articles my conclusion is that the case is certainly very murky as to any connection between al-Qaida and Hussein, but certainly not clearcut as you present the facts to be.

Best Regards,