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Pentagon agrees with Charlie Rangle.....Tri_Rich
Nov 8, 2003 2:43 PM
The pentagon has begun to fill vacant seats on the nation draft boards, reported on CNN this morning and on the GOVERNMENTAL website...

(or at least until a few hours ago)

Are they really thinking about getting congress to reinstate the draft, or are they simply attempting to boost employment figures?
Karl Rove would never allow it.OldEdScott
Nov 8, 2003 3:16 PM
Bad, BAD politics.

The neo-cons may wish us to be Sparta, but it will never happen, absent hideous disaster.
at least, not til after november 2004. nmrufus
Nov 8, 2003 6:39 PM
He still has to worry aboutOldEdScott
Nov 8, 2003 7:28 PM
Jebya. The Thousand Year R!ich, after all.
at least, not til after november 2004. nmcritmass
Nov 9, 2003 1:39 AM
The Pentagon has send out this line "there are no specific plans to bring back the draft but it's only prudent to have the plans and some people in place if it becomes necessary" With 130,000 troops in Afghanistan and Iraq now there could be rotation problems sooner or later. There is just one division remaining in the U.S. and the Pentagon soon needs to send new Army and Marine combat troops to replace soldiers who have been there for one year.

The Pentagon has said it's alerting 43,000 more National Guard and Reserve troops that they will be sent to Iraq and they just announced that they are not allowing anyone to leave the National Guard or Reserves for 90 days before their send date and 90 days after they return. With all the news about the lack of decent medical treatment for returning National Guard and Reserve troops and the National Guard Chinook being shot down, killing 15 soldiers, because it wasn't as well protected with sophisticated countermeasures as regular Army helicopters they may be beginning to feel that they are at the wrong end of a double military standard.

Because of the way Dubya mishandled the diplomatic path leading into this war and still is, few countries are willing to send troops. Turkey just declined to send troops and Australia and Spain are pulling their troops out of Baghdad. It doesn't look good for any international troop help.

With no exit strategy ( Iraqification is a falsehood we learned in Vietnam), increasing hostile activities, few countries willing to help because of Dubya's arrogant diplomatic ways and the increasing hostilities, Dubya and the boyz saying we will be there for a few years and the probable need for more troops than are available we may not have a choice about a draft. If reelected and with a Republican Congress Dubya will get it. With past history as a guide he may even get it with a partial Democratic Congress.

But then I'm sure Dubya and his sycophants will have no problem lying about no need for a draft right up to the day he announces he does need one.

The real cost of Dubya's lies
452 grieving families
Total U.S. wounded 2237

Total Deaths March 20th to aircraft carrier Victory announcement May 2nd: 172
Total Deaths May 2nd to November 8 th : 280

11/08/03 Centcom: Two paratroopers were killed and two were wounded in a ambush west of Baghdad at approximately 9:40 a.m.
Organizational principle #4dr hoo
Nov 9, 2003 5:42 AM
When an organizations starts to plan and move resources for something that they MIGHT do, it will get done. If a company says "We are looking into the costs and benefits of moving corporate headquarters", it means that once all the looking is done, it is almost certain that the move will happen. Bureacratic inertia works both ways, slowing action by the organization, and keeping it moving once started.

Once the draft board personnel and bureaucracy is in place, it will most likely happen, baring an uproar. Early 2005 sounds about right.
Interesting insight.eyebob
Nov 11, 2003 1:47 PM
Your comment reminded of the pre-War build-up. the folks in charge constantly reminded people that the build-up was "just in case" and even used the guise (my opinion) argument of having the troops in place meant that we really meant business....

IMHO that was all a smoke screen. YOu don't spend all that money on a build up and NOT go in.