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anyone see Zell Miller this week?(12 posts)

anyone see Zell Miller this week?DougSloan
Nov 7, 2003 11:11 AM
Oh, man, did he do a number on Democrats. I realize this is old news to some, but he basically lambasted the party and predicted it's demise unless it becomes more conservative, sort of like a JFK party again.

Problem is, if the D party becomes more like the R's, then why not just vote for the R's?

See: (scroll down):

He's not proud of today's Democratic Party--or so one gathers from the title of Georgia Sen. Zell Miller's new book, ''A National Party No More: The Conscience of a Conservative Democrat.''

As Miller puts it, ''No Democrat wants to tell the leaders of their party that they have halitosis.''

But he does, fingering the breath and ''axis'' of four party leaders--Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe, former President Bill Clinton, former Vice President Al Gore and Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle--for having ''created an atmosphere so bad that it is almost impossible for Democrats to be heard.''

He's not any prouder of the 2004 Democratic presidential candidates, particularly their campaign rhetoric of late against the U.S. intervention in Iraq.

''My concern is that ... they are exacerbating the difficulties of a nation at war,'' says Miller, calling Howard Dean the worst offender of all who should take some ''calm-me-down pills.''

As for President Bush's style of governing?

''I like the fact that the Bush White House is not timid about making a decision and does not suffer from 'analysis paralysis,' the malady that is common to those learned people who know so much and can see all sides,'' says the senator, adding that despite his failures, Clinton ''was the exception.''
Raelly loved listening to himLive Steam
Nov 7, 2003 11:18 AM
He was on Imus the morning we drove out to PA. If you know Imus, you can picture the exchange between these two. I love his "Millerisms". Sounds more like a down-home-country-boy than Ol' Ed, that's fur sure! :O)
Why, ah'm mortifahed, Steam.OldEdScott
Nov 7, 2003 1:48 PM
Zell should change parties. Right now, today. I really don't care. He's a pretend Dumocrat in a state where the Repubs questioned Max Cleland's patriotism, and I say he and they deserve each other. The Zell/Hannity/Gingrich three-way on radio last week was enough to leave any rational person queasy.

What a crew.
Do you think Zell makes any good points, though? nmDougSloan
Nov 7, 2003 1:54 PM
Yes. We need to appeal toOldEdScott
Nov 7, 2003 2:00 PM
Southern guys with rebel flags on their pickups. No quarrel there.

My problem is, he's not in any sense a Dumocrat trying to fix the party. He's a Republican trying to destroy the party. There's a huge difference.
Nov 7, 2003 2:13 PM
He essentially said that "Democrats need to be more like JFK, strong on defense, cutting taxes..." -- ooops, that is sounding Republican. Was JFK really a Republican?

Nov 7, 2003 2:14 PM
Has anyone checked Zell's pickup for rebel flags?
Shame Al Franken wasn't moderating (nm)RoyGBiv
Nov 7, 2003 2:21 PM
what, he'd offer a 12 step program for wayward Democrats? nmDougSloan
Nov 7, 2003 2:23 PM
Naw, he'd be so stupefyingly boring thatOldEdScott
Nov 7, 2003 2:42 PM
everyone in the three-way would go limp as dishrags.
You should be his writer. :-) nmRoyGBiv
Nov 7, 2003 4:04 PM
I'll take that as a complimentOldEdScott
Nov 8, 2003 3:10 PM
although you wouldn't have to be very politically funny to top him. Bless his heart. He takes this stuff too seriously to find the humor in it.