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Chapter 712: "How Women See Things Differently"(18 posts)

Chapter 712: "How Women See Things Differently"DougSloan
Nov 4, 2003 9:30 AM
My wife has become a huge Lance fan, having sat through 5 Tours and having read "It's Not About the Bike." She never showed the slightest interest in any sport before that, much less cycling.

A month or so ago she bought and had read about half of "Every Second Counts" by Lance. Yesterday, in passing, I mentioned that he was now seeing Sheryl Crow. She was shocked, having not heard (I don't know how, but I hadn't brought it up) that he had been separated and was now divorcing (obviously, thank goodness, she hasn't been visiting this site).

Her first reaction, without know anything, was "what a jerk!" "He's going to leave his kids for some fluzzey (sp?)?"

My reaction to her reaction, typically male, likely, was "how do you know it's his fault?" (like this argument is going anywhere)

Her further argument was that Sheryl Crow is "55 years old, an old leather-skinned hag." I begged to differ, not only on the looks, but noted that she was actually younger than us (at 42 and 43-me). Of course, in my lawyerly way, I provided proof for my clain that Sheryl was born in 1962 -- her response:

"ok, ok. She just looks like she's 50.

"Anyway, I'm not going to finish the book. He talks about how strong willed he is and that he's a fighter. So much for that crap."


re: Chapter 712: "How Women See Things Differently"Starliner
Nov 4, 2003 10:30 AM
Sounds like your wife puts a high value on loyalty and committment in a relationship. She probably pictured Lance as one and the same. A "perfect picture" which you, Doug, had to shatter into little pieces. I think you might consider buying her a small diamond to let her know that she's your girl, and to hell with Cheryl Crow and the rest of the one-hit, one-night wonders of this world.
Sheryl Crow, a "one-hit" wonder?KG 361
Nov 4, 2003 5:15 PM
What planet are you from? Years ago I thought that but you know, she's been around for a while now and having her CD that has "Soak up the sun" on it-there ain't a bad track on it. She rocks.
re: Chapter 712: "How Women See Things Differently"cmgauch
Nov 4, 2003 10:56 AM
Good going Doug, shattering the poor woman's Wheatie-box image of Lance.

For a follow up, maybe point out the resemblance between Sheryl, Lance's soon to be ex & his mom.

Maybe you can turn her on to a new cycling hero - Tyler?
My wife said the same thingColnagoFE
Nov 4, 2003 11:35 AM
I'd have to say I agree with her somewhat. From the outside it seems he chose career over marriage. Speculation of course and may not be true, but my gut reaction. His choice of course, but it affects 2 kids as well as his ex.
correction: 3 kids (nm)sacheson
Nov 5, 2003 7:30 AM
In general............Len J
Nov 4, 2003 1:52 PM
woman always seem to assume that it is the mans fault when a divorce occurs, but then most men assume it's the woman's fault.

As in most things, any assumptions any of us make are more wrong than right (most of the time) because we just don't know.

This is not a winnable argument.


How come you are only up to reason 712?
Women are just as dumb as men.....Only in different ways..MR_GRUMPY
Nov 4, 2003 2:12 PM
For every silly thing that men do, there is a different silly thing that women do.
Didn't Lance dump his girlfriend for the woman ...RoyGBiv
Nov 4, 2003 2:14 PM
who would be his bride and wasn't that covered in "It's not about the bike'?
man, now that is extreme...funknuggets
Nov 4, 2003 2:57 PM
you guys are worse than the inquirer... first Sandra Bullock and now this... ? Man, now IM LOSING respect for the fella.

The Funk

BTW: Hey Doug, do you specialize in any particular area of law? (Unrelated to topic)
The Real Issue I think May belotterypick
Nov 4, 2003 4:04 PM
That you married a person who values integrity.

If two star like people get divorced, who really cares.

But when a rich star person dumps the person who was with them when they were nothing, their words about integrity and loyalty and self sacrifice begin to ring hollow.

Can you imagine the horror of marrying someone and giving them all your support and love and seeing them when they were weak and loving them anyway, and then when they have it all, are strong, loved by all, etc. now they dump you.

That is sad. Sure, there are two sides, but .... I'll stop before I get pissed assuming.
Lance looks like a jerkContinental
Nov 4, 2003 7:50 PM
I agree with Lotterypick. Is sure looks like Lance put chasing skirts and bike riding above his family. No excuse for it in my book. If he really put his family first, if it really was the most important thing in his life, he wouldn't be the National Enquirer poster boy. Great athlete, amazing and inspiring to watch, but I think he's a schmuck.
maybe he is putting family first?DougSloan
Nov 7, 2003 9:28 AM
Not sure I agree about him needing to put family first right now. How much longer is he going to ride, maybe a year or two? Meanwhile, he racks up another $20 million or so a year, then he can retire and spend every waking moment with his family for the rest of his life.

I've not heard anything to indicate that the breakup was caused by riding or "chasing skirts." For all we know, it could be religion, how to raise the kids, or they just get on each others' nerves. Speculating is one thing, but condemning someone based upon speculation isn't fair.

Third Book of the trilogy: "It's All About The Penis" (nm)Skip
Nov 4, 2003 8:23 PM
If you thought that up...jesse1
Nov 5, 2003 3:08 AM're wasting your time here! You should be writing for Leno - Good one!
If you thought that up...Skip
Nov 5, 2003 6:14 PM
Yup, Totally original. If Leno, Letterman, or anyone else use it, they owe me roalties - Ha!
Sheryl Crow? Now where does this come from.Sintesi
Nov 5, 2003 6:59 PM
Sandra Bullock must be crying her eyes out.

I do think Sheryl gets too much sun. It could go bad for her in the next ten years.
Just kidding53T
Nov 7, 2003 6:40 AM
He's not really with S. Crow. But he is a schmuck. Three kids (two in diapers), pleanty of money, everyone is healthy and he can't make it work? Give me a break.