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who needs a gun for home defence?MJ
Oct 13, 2003 12:01 AM,12576,1061765,00.html

Martial arts expert kills two raiders

Philip Willan in Rome
Monday October 13, 2003
The Guardian

A Chinese martial arts expert was in custody yesterday after turning the tables on four burglars armed with knives, killing two of them and seriously wounding a third.
The 28-year-old man, known as "the doctor" for his practice of acupuncture and traditional Chinese medicine, managed to seize one of the two knives carried by his assailants and saw off the entire group with the ferocity of his reaction.

Magistrates in the central Italian town of Empoli are now seeking to establish whether his self-defence constituted an excessive use of force.

The butchery, worthy of a Quentin Tarantino film, began shortly before midnight on Friday when the four men knocked at the apartment of a Chinese hairdresser in the centre of Empoli.

The hairdresser, her assistant and "the doctor", who operated from the same premises, were reportedly overpowered and tied up before the group, all thought to be in their 20s and 30s, ransacked the apartment.

Disappointed by their meagre booty, the attackers allegedly threatened to rape the two women unless they told them where the rest of their money was hidden.

At this point the doctor managed to free himself, seize a knife from one of the aggressors and deliver a series of lethal stab wounds.

Investigators found the body of one man, who had been stabbed in the heart, sprawled on the staircase and another man bleeding to death in the street from a wound to his leg. A third man is recovering in hospital from a punctured lung.

The doctor was found crouching in the entrance to the building with cuts to his shoulder, face and hands.

Investigators are trying to determine whether he inflicted the injuries while defending himself inside the apartment, or hunted down the burglars after they had fled.
What he did is fine with me ...Live Steam
Oct 13, 2003 9:06 AM
even if he did hunt them down like the animals they were. They won't be claiming any more victims!
agreed - BTWMJ
Oct 13, 2003 9:25 AM
did you have to get a new keyboard after it got wet from your tears during your little tantrum last week?
I see you missed me :O)Live Steam
Oct 13, 2003 10:00 AM
My keyboard is just fine, but thanks for asking. It was just a little social experiment for which you fulfilled my expectations as did some of the others who responded in contrasting manner to your post :O) Now who is the rabid, knee-jerk reactionary? Grinnin' on ya' you gormless wuss!
Oct 14, 2003 12:16 AM
I was caught out by your very clever ploy - I guess you really exposed my true colours

to be honest I'm glad you didn't go away - the other rabid neo-cons aren't such an easy mark
bravoDuane Gran
Oct 13, 2003 9:23 AM
I think the guy did a fine job of defending himself and his companions. I'm sure if he used a gun it would receive more scrutiny, which doesn't make sense at all, but I think I would be just as supportive if he used a gun.
Sounds like self defense to meSoftrider
Oct 13, 2003 12:18 PM
I had a female friend in college who had a similar experience.

She was assaulted in the parking lot of a store by a large male attacker. Little did he know, this cute little college student was a karate instructor. Apparently he came out on the bad end of the encounter, and in the process sustained severe damage to his "manhood".

He actually tried to sue her for the injuries, but he didn't get very far.
re: who needs a gun for home defence?BikeViking
Oct 14, 2003 6:36 AM
Not everyone is as highly trained/motivated as that guy was. Guns increase the odds for those of us who aren't as skilled with our hand-to-hand fighting.

Whether he shot them or stabbed them shouldn't matter, the inherent right to self-defense in a reasonable manner (can't ring the house with Claymores) chosen by the individual is an inalienable right.