|Coworker dings door||filtersweep|
Oct 10, 2003 5:40 AM
|My office overlooks my parking space- I'm on the second floor of an office building, and I have a clear view of my car about 80-100 feet away.
The other day, a co-worker (same level of management as me- offices next door) dented my passenger door with her door as she entered her mini-van. I drive a nice new car. Her mini-van still has dealer plates, BTW...
Anyway, I had a clear view of her door against mine. A co-worker in my office also witnessed this. The nicest thing I can say about her is she is rather Machevelian... but I have REALLY tried to go out of my way to find endearing traits about her. Anyway, she closed her door and just sat in her car for a few minutes. I'm thinking she was debating what to do. Instead of coming back in, she left for lunch. I went out to check my car and from across the parking lot I could see the largest door dent I've ever seen.
I called her cell phone, and she acted like I was joking. Keep in mind I've never called her cell phone before... she denied dinging my door. When she returned, she went immediately into her office, closed the door, and was on the phone (to her husband). She came into my office and said she didn't ding my door, that there was no paint on her door from my car... that she would have known if she hit it.
I said that a co-worker also saw her, but she continued to deny. At this point I'm very frustrated, since we are supposed to be on this so-called "management team" and she is basically calling me a liar, and she is showing zero integrity.
If she would have been even remotely contrite, I might be willing to just let this go... but I'm at the point where I want her to pay for fixing it (should be about $160 for "paintless dent removal"). Now she said she has phoned her insurance company, and they will take care of it- but she has done this in such a way as to imply that I have done something wrong, or that I'm the one being unreasonable.
All in all, this is leaving a very bad taste in my mouth. I usually weigh these situations based on the level of emotional energy involved. Am I better off just fixing it and knowing I'm the better person here, or dealing with her and her insurance with her attitude that I'm screwing her over, and that somehow she'll either get even, or I'll owe her one?
This situation calls for a good old fashioned industrial accident....
Oct 10, 2003 6:24 AM
|She must have one hell of a set of scruples.
And hey, at least no one got hurt. Not yet anyway......
Tough call. I'd pursue it until it felt like work. Then drop it and take comfort knowing she's just freed up a table in Heaven. Could be she's the Devil. Anyone who does this to a new car at work knowingly screwing a team mate could have Satanic tendencies.
What is the make and model of your car? I have an'03 Accord and am teased endlessly about how far I will go to avoid parking near other cars. I think there should be a paranoid new car owners car port in every lot in the Union.
|sounds like a winner||mohair_chair|
Oct 10, 2003 6:27 AM
|Why should you suffer for her lack of integrity? Seems to me the damage is done, no pun intended. If she is acting this way, your "relationship" with her is probably never going to get any better. Taking a $160 hit to spare her extremely misguided feelings doesn't make sense to me. It's not your fault.|
|You need to handle this in an adult way||MR_GRUMPY|
Oct 10, 2003 6:59 AM
|After you have had your car repaired, push her down the stairs.|
|here's what I would do||DougSloan|
Oct 10, 2003 7:02 AM
|This is touchy, but here's what I think I would do.
Pay to get it fixed yourself. Get an invoice or receipt showing the cost and the it was paid. Take it and put it on her desk in plain view when she is not there. Wait and see what happens.
If she or her insurer pays it, fine. If not, you did what you could short of going ballistic; you were the bigger person; eat it and know that you two will always know the truth.
Oct 10, 2003 11:08 AM
|every month or every 28 days of her cycle, put a copy of the invoice on her door or under her wipers..... ohhhhh I like that.|
Oct 10, 2003 11:10 AM
|Know yourself||Hot Carl|
Oct 10, 2003 7:42 AM
|This person is a member of your management team. You need to settle this to work with her effectively.
Myself, I couldn't help but harbor resentment towards someone who hasn't paid for the damage. This will affect the working relationship until it's resolved.
|I was at a triathlon back in 1996||ClydeTri|
Oct 10, 2003 7:47 AM
|at the post race awards the loud speaker came on and asked for me to go to the parking lot, that my car had been hit. I went out there and a guy and the police were waiting. He had backed up hitting the rear fender. Caused about $400 damage. He got out, called the police, they ran the license plates and that his how they got my name to call out on the loud speaker. He had his insurance pay for it. He could have easily drove off and kept going. Interesting thing I had never met him, we are now friends and email each other and talk at races, very nice guy.|
|I was out one night.....||african|
Oct 10, 2003 11:13 AM
|(there are lots of storys that start "I was out one night" that I need to write down) but I was walking through a big parking lot and saw a guy in a dodge truck back up and hit a parked dodge suv, nice dent in the bumper/rear. He drove off. I ran accros the parking lot up the road (being fit helps) - he was stopped at a red. I got his number and went back and got security, gave them the tag number and a bit later the owner of the suv showed up, he was mad as all hell and you know what thats where this story ends as I don't know what happened after that, but I did my good deed.|
|A few fries short of a happy mean, that one!||Kristin|
Oct 10, 2003 11:21 AM
|How much you want to bet she has a $250 comp/collision decuctable?|
|Deductible has nothing to do with it-||filtersweep|
Oct 10, 2003 12:48 PM
|In my situation, there will be no deductible involved. Deductibles are only for fixing your own vehicle with your own insurance.
One interesting point that several people who do NOT drive nice cars raised, is that "dings happen"- that I'm being a bit pushy by wanting it fixed in the first place, or anal retentive for even considering fixing at all.
I don't know how willing I'd be to "forgive" an accidental ding if the dinger self-reported it...
|Not sure, deductable may come into play here||Kristin|
Oct 10, 2003 1:06 PM
|Not for you of course, but for her. I'm not really sure. You raise a good point, but I do believe that some insurance companies legally consider dinging another drivers door to be a comp claim instead of a liability one.|
|$160.00? If she's only halfway smart she'd just pay it anyway.||Spoke Wrench|
Oct 11, 2003 5:04 AM
|If she runs that through as a liability claim, she'll be paying a surcharge on her insurance for three years. That'll add up to way more than $160.00.
At this point in time, what are you trying to accomplish? Personally, I vote with Doug. First of all, get that damm thing fixed as quickly as you can. The longer it remains dented, the greater the resentment you'll build. Then I'd give her a chance to do the right thing without destroying her dignity. Even if that doesn't work, I'd try my best to put it behind me and try to rebuild an effective working relationship. The difference between good and not-so-good job performance will probably amount to lots more than $160.00 over time.
|$160.00? If she's only halfway smart she'd just pay it anyway.||filtersweep|
Oct 11, 2003 6:23 AM
|I think claims below $400 stay beneath the radar (per my insurance agent).
$160 is about a month's worth of insurance anyway in a backa$$ no-fault state like MN...
(they like to tell us no-fault keeps rates down- and before you all get confused, no-fault is only for PIP- not property or the vehicles- probably an extra $80/month- meaning if I'm a PASSENGER in someone else's vehicle AND I have my own auto insurance, and someone else is at fault in an accident, my own insurance will pay my medical bills... in fact, I've even heard that as a pedestrian, if I get mowed over by a car, my own insurance pays... gotta love no fault!).