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Wild idea..what if it was Wilson????(17 posts)

Wild idea..what if it was Wilson????ClydeTri
Oct 7, 2003 9:51 AM
What if it was Wilson himself who "outed" his wife? Forgetting the fact that many people said it was a very open secret that she worked for the CIA. Wilson was a Clinton appointee and outspoken in his dislike of Bush. His wife is in no danger being here in the US and he scores massive points with the DEM party....just thinking out loud..
Impossible. Means Novak et al are lying about their sources. nmOldEdScott
Oct 7, 2003 9:52 AM
Old that technically true???ClydeTri
Oct 7, 2003 10:55 AM
one could make an argument that Wilson as a White House appointee under Clinton is a "White House source", correct?
You'd have to say 'former,' and then there's the problemOldEdScott
Oct 7, 2003 11:05 AM
of 'senior,' which I'm not sure he'd qualify as having been. No, the sourcing of the Novak story and others is perfectly unambiguous. It's someone very high up in the current administration. Good try though. You're learning to think like a truth-torturing spin doctor!
What if Novak had nothing to worry about?moneyman
Oct 7, 2003 1:11 PM
He and Wilson come up with this plan to discredit Bush II (I read the article - thanks for the link!) because thier hatred of Bush transcends everything else. Novak writes the story and attributes the information to a "Senior administration official" who can't be traced. All the SAOs deny saying anything, because they haven't. Novak is asked to disclose who his source was, and he says he won't do that either. The Justice Dept. hauls him into court under that 1982 law about disclosing CIA agents true identities, but Novak successfully argues that Wilson's wife was no secret, but rather a known analyst working at a desk in Langley, so no crime was committed and he does not have to reveal his source. Novak's off the hook, keeps his SAO a secret, because there isn't a SAO, Wilson looks like the injured husband, Bush II looks like they are hiding something and doubt is cast far afield regarding the credibility and loyalty of his administration.

To think that I saw it on Mulberry Street.

$$ (too many Tom Clancy novels for my own good)
It's a terrific scenario, and I applaud you for theOldEdScott
Oct 8, 2003 4:33 AM
excellent political turn of mind you show! But it's very, very unlikely that Novak would violate about 77 canons of ethical journalism and risk a 40-year career (and a very nice income, thank you) just to discredit the neo-cons this way. Plus, there are other journalists involved, and the unlikelihood increases exponentially with each one.

Still, you're getting the hang of this.
Thank you. Other things I have learned...moneyman
Oct 8, 2003 6:35 AM
I've always had an interest in politics, and I am currently considering a run at a statewide office in 2006. But something that has put a damper on that is my own naivete' with regard to politics in a small state. I had always thought that the politicians here worked together for the good of the people (mistake number one). Then I had an opportunity to fly on a state plane with the current holder of the office (we were attending a meeting together) and had the undivided attention of this person for about 45 minutes. It was just the two of us in the cabin, while the two pilots were up front, out of earshot. This person said some verrrrry interesting things with regard to some other politicians in the state that opened my eyes to what its all about. Now that I have that small perspective, I am not so sure about making the run myself.

I guess I should have known. I helped a guy run (unsuccessfully by less that 1/2 of 1%) for mayor here a few years back, only to be shocked by the (low) level of discourse on a local level. Why I would think that statewide offices - which can, and do, lead to national offices and all their trappings, would be any more hospitable, is beyond me. It really makes me leary of my attempt. FWIW - I am highly qualified for this office, probably better than anyone else in the state.

I am learning a lot from this silly internet forum.

What, auditor of public accounts? What state? nmOldEdScott
Oct 8, 2003 6:51 AM
What, auditor of public accounts? What state? nmmoneyman
Oct 8, 2003 7:10 AM
Really rather not say at this time. Still thinking. Even rumors could have an adverse affect on my business.

Let me know if you'd like a free consult to help youOldEdScott
Oct 8, 2003 7:20 AM
make up your mind. Down-ballot statewide races have special considerations, but also offer wonderful opportunities for unknowns or little-knowns.

The auditor's office is a great springboard for anyone with ambitions for higher office, BTW.
Lets take this off the boardmoneyman
Oct 8, 2003 7:34 AM
Send me an email at mattnp2atearthlinkdotnet and I'll explain a little.

No, It had to be evil Bill Clinton........MR_GRUMPY
Oct 7, 2003 10:33 AM
trying to get all of those good and pure Republicans in trouble.
Good point. He would have known about her too... (nm)TJeanloz
Oct 7, 2003 10:36 AM
Maybe he "knew" her very well......nmMR_GRUMPY
Oct 7, 2003 10:42 AM
Clinton would be a "white house source" nm :)ClydeTri
Oct 7, 2003 10:54 AM
Remember what I said yesterday about thisOldEdScott
Oct 7, 2003 11:13 AM
smelling like an internal right-wing struggle? Check this from the Oct 13 neo-con Weekly Standard:
No, it was Hillary.......MR_GRUMPY
Oct 7, 2003 11:27 AM
She found out that Bill was messing around with Wilson's wife and decided to fix her.
This is the best one yet. You have evil Bill, evil Hillary, and Wilson, the clown. george comes out smelling like a rose.