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"The General" : Fire Rush!(11 posts)

"The General" : Fire Rush!DJB
Oct 2, 2003 12:43 PM

"In the letter to ESPN, Clark said, "There can be no excuse for such statements. Mr. Limbaugh has the right to say whatever he wants, but ABC and ESPN have no oblication to sponsor such hateful and ignorant speech. Mr. Limbaugh should be fired immediately." "

I guess that free speech stuff only goes so far (or only when you're bashing a Republican?). And this coming from a guy who is basing his campaign on "New American Patriotism". I'm sure those of you who were appalled by the treatment of the Dixie Chicks are simply outraged...

Anyone else find this totally hypocritical?
I think hateful is a bit muchTJeanloz
Oct 2, 2003 12:50 PM
Ignorant I can see. But what was hateful about Rush's comments?

He should be fired on the basis of not knowing enough about football to be commentating.
I think hateful is a bit muchDJB
Oct 2, 2003 1:09 PM
Since I've never watched that show, I can't comment on Rush's abilities, but I agree that the comments didn't come close to hateful. I honestly don't even think they were racist. And I happen to be an Eagles/McNabb fan (if that matters).

But imagine if Bush had said that the Dixie Chicks or some of the other entertainers that have spoken out against him should be released from their contracts. All h*ll would have broken loose!
I think he's just a stupid racist...lyleseven
Oct 5, 2003 5:13 PM
There is a major difference between the Dixie Chicks and Rush. You can pay to see the Chix, or not. Rush is on ESPN (or was, thank God!) and it is supposed to be a sports network, not a political forum espousing racial epithets. But, if you didn't know that Rush was a racist before you heard him on ESPN, then I've got some good real estate to sell you!
you're ignorantDougSloan
Oct 5, 2003 7:45 PM
In the sense you don't know what you are talking about. Got any evidence that he's racist? Ever even listen to him? Ever listen to his guest hosts while he's on vacation? It's pretty easy to toss around claims of racism and smear people with whom you disagree. It's quite another to back them up.

How about this?Spoke Wrench
Oct 2, 2003 2:30 PM
I have a co-worker who thinks that Rush simply realized that he had gotten in over his head trying to come up with insightful football comments so he simply made a statement that allowed him a way out of his contract.

Is Rush smart enough to do something like that?
no, he meant itDougSloan
Oct 5, 2003 7:50 PM
I caught part of Rush's Friday show this morning. He gave several examples of media support of black quarterbacks *because of* their race. Detailed, documented, examples. He also quoted McNabb's agent who said something to the effect during a contract negotiation that McNabb deserved *more* since he was black. Rush, by far, was not the first to discuss race concerning black quarterbacks or McNabb specifically.

Clark is just as ignorant and shameful for jumping on the PC lynchmob bandwagon in smearing Rush further without the facts.

re: "The General" : Fire Rush!Hot Carl
Oct 2, 2003 4:28 PM
I think I have to go with you on this one. It sounds like something said by a candidate for office who's anticipating a PC-weighted public response.

The memories of Newt Gingrich are fresh. In the former Speaker's case, it was important for other politicians to make a stand early and distance themselves from the guy. I'm not saying Rush's statements are on par with the Newt's, but this just might be a factor in Clark's, or any other candidate's comments.
It's still not enough to knock him from the top candidate spot, but it's a bad mark.
What did Newt say? Or do you mean Trent Lott? (nm)TJeanloz
Oct 3, 2003 6:06 AM
Trent Lott, that's it. (nm)Hot Carl
Oct 3, 2003 6:22 AM
Our "great" president supports Rushfiltersweep
Oct 3, 2003 6:25 AM
-said he was a "great American" and "can overcome anything."

I have the issues a bit mixed up- since Rush apparently likes "hillbilly heroin" as well...

Frankly, and no one ever confused me with being conservative, I find this PC notion that we cannot even COMMENT about race to be absurd.

In Minnesota we had a black football coach with a long tenure in the NFL (Denny Green), and now Daunte Culpepper (and his white replacement is doing just fine... take your time getting better Daunte). Coincidentally, under Green, the coaching staff became blacker and blacker- and many insiders felt it was pure nepotism for Green's buddies. Of course, no one could even mention RACE as the issue. Denny was clearly a megalomaniac (read his book if you doubt me), and no doubt would have been reeled in if he wasn't a poster child for afirmative action in the NFL.

What am I saying? Rush worked on a talk show- and if what he said wasn't true (although it is quite possible he was speaking the truth), his views no doubt reflected a popular opinion held by monday-morning quarterbacks.

I'm all about free speech- and this is SPORTS- its just a game people! There is all sorts of ignorant banter tossed about on sports talk every day and in every market.