Sep 17, 2003 6:59 AM
|What is it with idiots driving in the left lane? I was cruising down the 5 from Carlsbad towards San Diego and was constantly amazed that there are people driving 65-70mph in the left lane AND NOT MOVING OVER.
For all of y'all that have never driven in SoCal, its one of the few places I've ever seen bumper to bumper traffic at 75mph. (and sometimes even faster!)
The line of cars building up behind them isn't a clue. Neither is the series of cars passing them on the right.
Normally, I'll set the speed-o-meter at 72-3mph and cruise in the two center lanes, only venturing out into the left lane to go around people driving even slower than I am. I immediately get out of the left lane after passing 'cause I know that I'd be the one holding up traffic.
So what is it? Is it that these people are so clueless that they just don't have a clue that there are bunches of people lined up behind them? or is it that they're so self-centered that they just don't give a rat's arse that there are people behind them?
Remind me to tell y'all about the bimbo in the minivan that tried to run me over while I was riding my BMW motorcycle down the same stretch of freeway...
Admittedly, there are fewer idiots in the left lane doing the speed limit here than there were in the DC area...
Can anyone help me out here?
|You can't do nuttin' about it, so just chill. nm||gf99|
Sep 17, 2003 7:10 AM
|Do you have electronic pay toll lanes on the left??||Kristin|
Sep 17, 2003 7:34 AM
|In Chicago they released IPASS. Now all the old people get immediatley into the left hand lane when they get onto the tollway so they don't have to do it later. They typically max out at 65MPH.|
|California doesn't have toll roads||mohair_chair|
Sep 17, 2003 7:51 AM
|Toll roads suck and Californians want nothing to do with them. We already pay some of the highest taxes in the country, so why would we then pay more to drive on roads we already paid to have built?
There's actually a few private toll roads, most famously in Orange County.
|Huh. When I visited San Francisco I remember tolls.||Kristin|
Sep 17, 2003 9:29 AM
|Are they just on the bridges then? We've got a great toll system in Chicago. The tollways are the ones in the worst shape. Its the free interstates that have nice pavement. And the tollway authority decided they wanted to double the toll's. DOUBLE!! That would be $1.00 each way. But they don't think they should have to open their books to the state...even though a couple of their executives drive Porches.
And here is a question that Dupage County drivers will identify with. What the hell did they do to I88??? The first time I rode on it I thought I had a flat tire. I actually pulled over and got out of my car. No flat. Its just the pavement. Its like driving on cobblestone at 70MPH. And this is on the "highway improvement test zone."
|bridges only nm||mohair_chair|
Sep 17, 2003 9:34 AM
|re: Traffic Rant||mohair_chair|
Sep 17, 2003 7:49 AM
|Part of it is that the left lane usually has the least thrashed pavement, but that doesn't explain why people don't move over when somebody else comes along. I think consideration and kindness is basically dead in this country, certainly on the road.
Having just come back to San Jose from L.A. on I-5, I have another rant. I'm driving in the left lane to avoid the potholes, doing 80 mph (it's the Central Valley), and another car is approaching. So I move over to the right. The other driver finally arrives, comes alongside, but rather than pass me, he decides to match my speed. So now I'm blocked when the inevitable truck comes along. Not only that, but I'm on cruise control, so my speed is constant. The other guy is all over the place, and eventually falls behind, an obvious sign of someone who isn't paying attention. Tired of being blocked by an unsafe idiot, I grab the left lane again, and the guy suddenly doesn't seem interested anymore, dropping way back.
This happened about 10 times with 10 different people. What the hell is this about?
The last guy who did this paralleled me for miles, until we came upon a truck, where he made sure I had to slow down and get behind him. Then he speeds up, passes the truck, pulls over into the right lane, and slows down. I pass him easily, then he jumps back out in the left lane and rides my tail! This time I just let him sit there for the next 20 miles until I got to my offramp.
I've come to the conclusion that there are lots of people out there who don't want to go faster than you, they just don't want you in front of them. It's an alpha male type thing. I wonder if these guys pee on other cars in parking lots.
|They were doing the speed limit ? Where? Crazy!||128|
Sep 17, 2003 8:40 AM
|They do the speed limit in the left for the same reason that I do 77; preference, to the exclusion of yours.
Optimally eveyrone should do a consistent speed For example of 75 (left lane) 70 middle, and 65 right. Consistent speed is the key. It's those non-thinking various speed drivers who get the mess started. Sounds like if you're doing 72 you either need to be in the middle lane or go faster.
The reason they don't pull into the middle lane to let 30 cars pass is: then they'll be stuck in the middle lane instead of doing 72 whith you behind them wanting to do 73. They are the cosmic brain put there to pace the herd.
Generally I agree with you, move over. But if I'm doing 77, and some freak moves on me too fast (doesn't ease up politely) and I obviously have no escape route on the right, he's the ass and will be waiting until I don't have to re-set my auto-speed.
Also, in thru traffic lanes, wheel-suckers will wait because they're inevitably getting off at the very next exit.
My pet peeve: lane weavers at the first sign of traffic slowing and wheelsuckers on cell phones. Makes no sense.
imo there should be no speed limit and we all have German toys. Until then: drink upstream from the heard.
|my buddy who lives in the UK||sacheson|
Sep 17, 2003 10:01 AM
|says it's illegal to force an "undertake" on their highways ... meaning, you go in a traditionally "slower" lane to pass.
I think they should implement a similar law in the States. I'd love to see some oldie get busted for going the speed limit in my speed lane! ;-)
|Illinois has a new law that tickets "lefties"||MR_GRUMPY|
Sep 17, 2003 11:11 AM
|If you drive in the left lane, and stay there, you can get a ticket..........Not really enforced yet, but it will be, sooner or later........(Even if you're going 112 mph)|
|Really? When did that happen?||Kristin|
Sep 17, 2003 1:03 PM
|I like the idea. This has been a problem since IPASS became popular. Now the other problem with IPASS is people trying to squeeze into the lane at the last minute. If it gets enforced, it will be good.|
|I think it takes effect 1/1/04||4bykn|
Sep 20, 2003 5:00 AM
|And, if I'm cruising at 73mph in the left lane(legal limit in Illinois is 65) and someone pulls up on my bumper, I'll pull over when I deem it's safe, not when I tire of his/her headlights flashing.|
|re: Carlsbad towards San Diego||jrm|
Sep 17, 2003 5:59 PM
|Yup they suck.... but
you might be able to take the coaster and connect with the red cars. Or, better yet take the train and RIDE from there to work. Its a sweet commute
|That would work if I didn't work from home... nm||MShaw|
Sep 18, 2003 10:33 AM