|Will Arnold Say something???||Alpedhuez55|
Aug 14, 2003 8:29 AM
|I wish he would take some stands. It is annoying when someone runs only on personality. He should adress issues such as illegal immigration instead of pretending his mic doesn't work. I think he could make a good Governator and will most likely be able to surround himself with good people. But once he starts taking some stands on issues he is afraid his numbers will drop. I know it has only been a few days, but he needs to do more than recite movie catch phrases and not be afraid of alianating a few voters.
On good development is the equal time provision. They are saying they will not be able to show Arnold's movies or the rest of the assorted nuts could demand to have two hours of time as well. THis will also have the effect of ridding the airwaves of "Different Strokes" reruns. Now if we can only get Rosanne to run for president ;-)
|The reason, is that Arnold is dumber than george.......nm||MR_GRUMPY|
Aug 14, 2003 8:52 AM
Aug 14, 2003 9:29 AM
|Arnold is a college graduate with a degree in economics. He was a self made millionaire in his early 20s, well before he hit the big screen. He and Joe Wieder were able to more or less to build an industry. Calling him "Dumber than George" is not going to change any of those facts.
But them again, I have not seen "Junior" yet, so maybe I need to wait before I pass judgement ;-)
|Not really||Jon Billheimer|
Aug 14, 2003 9:44 AM
|Unfortunately, regardless of Schwarzie's merits or lack thereof, this is all about optics. It's kind of sad--and a little bit scary--when Hollywood dictates America's political choices. Life now imitates art. The upcoming Calif. electoral exercise will quite literally be a gong show.|
|I'm sorry , you're correct. He did it all without daddy||MR_GRUMPY|
Aug 14, 2003 10:47 AM
|It's too much of an insult to say that you are dumber than george. Sorry Arnold.|
|No, he married into it (nm)||TJeanloz|
Aug 14, 2003 10:58 AM
|His wife's family is no political slouch.|
|His degree is from ....||dr hoo|
Aug 14, 2003 12:54 PM
|... University of Wisconsin -- Superior. Distance learning, iirc. Don't know if he spent any time at all in residence or not.
Make of it what you will.
|Give the guy a break, jeesh||PaulCL|
Aug 14, 2003 10:59 AM
|His campaign is what, four days old?? Before his announcement on Leno, nobody knew he was going to announce. Therefore, Aaaaaarnie didn't have any staff, any advisers, etc... Give him a few days. According to Time magazine, his closest advisor was standing in the wings during the Leno show holding a pre-prepared speech on why he (Arnold) was NOT going to run. Nobody knew. Maybe not even Arnie himself. Complain in a week, but not yet.
As for Grumpy's comments about being dumb...way off base and uncalled for. Read the article in Time about Aaaarnie. This guy is bright, dedicated, and goal oriented. Very, very far from being dumb. Very few dummies make a fortune of $500-800 million and keep it (use Mike Tyson as a dummie example). Give the man his due: he had very little to gain from jumping into the ring. He will have to piss off a lot of people to get CA's economy back in shape.
And I agree..."VOTE FOR ROSEANNE"....add Dr. Phil and Phil Donahue and Madonna to that list too.
FYI: I don't live in CA. I live 2000 miles away.
|Give the guy a break, jeesh||Alpedhuez55|
Aug 14, 2003 12:16 PM
|I am one of the conservatives on the board. I think he could have had something to say on a few of the issues. I think he could do a great job and I defended him against MrGrumpy's post.
I just think he is ducking questions on some issues. He should have had a little something to say on these. When he evades them, it makes him look out of touch. I am sure he had thought about the run well before Leno and must have some opinion on certain key issues. I know it has only been a few days, but this is an election cycle that is several weeks and not several months. I think he needs to be quick and apear to have a grasp of the issues, otherwise he will add fuel to the fire of all the Mr. Grumpys of the world.
It will make for great tv in the weeks to come. I thought the most interesting election this fall would be to see if my city counselor who got caught videotaping one of his tennants in the bathroom would get re-elected. That is nothing compared to the California elections!!!
|The question is, who's judgement is he trying to duck?||czardonic|
Aug 14, 2003 12:36 PM
|Before his candidacy, my impression of Arnold was that he was another wealthy guy who figured that being rich made him eminently qualified to run the state. Since then, I have heard a lot of, dare I say, appealing things about him as a person and a prospective politician. He doesn't seem like a lunk-head or a deluded celebrity. More importantly, he spout the anti-tax fundamenentalism or the social authoritarianism of the Bush GOP. IOW, he sounds like someone who is actually interested in fixing the problems of the state, whereas the GOP is merely selling that line as a trojan horse for their aims to liquidate it and dole out the profits to their backers and buddies.
The left continues to try to trivialize him because they still need to defeat him. What is interesting is that the RR/GOP is lining up to try to tear him down for such transgressions as having sex and being tolerant of others. I think Arnold's celebrity can trump the Democrats attacks on his qualifications. His real task will be to fend of the Puritan Right. Given his apparently genuine social liberalism, the best thing he can do on that front is keep his mouth shut.
|re: Only if Pete Wilson sticks a arm||jrm|
Aug 14, 2003 11:05 AM
|up his butt and activates his mouth.|
|Ted Williams' frozen noggen is more aticulate than Conan.||Spoiler|
Aug 14, 2003 1:49 PM
|He's getting my vote.|
|Best to say nothing.||Steve98501|
Aug 14, 2003 3:47 PM
|Arnold supposedly has 99% name recognition. Most of that recognition is positive. It's positive for his celebrity status, not his political acumen. Arnold's political popularity can only go down. The worst thing he could do is begin talking about California's political issues and offering his positions on them in the form of action proposals. If he says anything at all, it should be to condemn all the things that are wrong with California's politics and government. And actions for improvement that he proposes in his canadacy platform will only alienate one or more segments of the electorate. Keeping quiet is his best campaign strategy; it could very well get him elected.
. . . and then, he'll have to ask his Democratic in-laws for advice on how to run a government.
|Keep under estimating the reb. can. and keep losing dems. NM||bic|
Aug 14, 2003 4:04 PM