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A DOH! moment?(10 posts)

A DOH! moment?ColnagoFE
Aug 4, 2003 9:02 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/08/03/superintendent.test.ap/index.html

I bet the teachers who failed this are laughing their heads off now.
Just a bunch of dimwitsmohair_chair
Aug 4, 2003 10:43 AM
I hope not. Any teacher who failed the test and can laugh about it should be fired. Their boss failing the test doesn't negate their own failure, whatever sense of irony it might pose. All these people should be fired.
How many of us could recall what we learned to graduate, tho?Silverback
Aug 4, 2003 10:54 AM
Failing in English proficiency is worrisome (though not a surprise to anybody who reads the notes his or her kids bring home from school). But this points up one of the fallacies of "results-based" education and proficiency testing in schools--it only measures what you set it up to measure, and who decides what that's going to be?
My wife's been teaching for 30 years, and sent many kids from her low-income-area school to college. She's "rescued" hundreds of them, urging them to stay in school, and some have even lived with us when they had problems at home. They come back 10 years later and thank her. But if she had to find a square root to keep her job, she'd be working in a 7-Eleven tomorrow.
This is pretty common in ALL jobs, I imagine. I had to take a lot of math and science classes to get my degree, but I don't use the knowledge in my job and I've forgotten most of it. Can't speak German anymore, either, and I studied that for eight years.
re: A DOH! moment?Alpedhuez55
Aug 4, 2003 11:25 AM
Lawrence is not the best place in the world. It is a manufacturing city with many mills and factories. The problem is that they don't really make much in Lawrence anymore. It is one of the poorest cities in the state.

They passed a law on the ballot last year in Massachusetts for English Immersion. It is one that would require students to study English then be moved into English Speaking classes instead of being taught in their native language. This is to eliminate bi-lingual education. The state lawmakers have already vetoed some provisions to weaken the law.
& 156K for the Superintendentent in Lawrence. Sounds high. nm128
Aug 4, 2003 12:10 PM
especially one who can't communicate well in English nmColnagoFE
Aug 4, 2003 12:54 PM
correction: communicate GOOD in English! ;-) nmsacheson
Aug 4, 2003 1:40 PM
disagreeColnagoFE
Aug 4, 2003 2:24 PM
from some usage website or other

"Good" is the adjective; "well" is the adverb. You do something well, but you give someone something good. The exception is verbs of sensation in phrases such as "the pie smells good," or "I feel good." Despite the arguments of nigglers, this is standard usage. Saying "the pie smells well" would imply that the pastry in question had a nose. Similarly, "I feel well" is also acceptable, especially when discussing health; but it is not the only correct usage.
Believe he was being ironic.OldEdScott
Aug 5, 2003 8:24 AM
Though your discussion about 'good' and 'well' is well-taken and written good.
& 156K for the Superintendentent in Lawrence. Sounds high. nmAlpedhuez55
Aug 5, 2003 7:28 AM
I think they said it is the 24th poorest community in the US today. It is the poorest in Massachusetts. $156K does sound very high. Supposedly he has done a good job, but this story is just one that points out the problems in our education system.

Mike Y.