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What are the odds?(5 posts)

What are the odds?Spoke Wrench
Aug 3, 2003 9:36 AM
Thirty years ago, my wife and I moved to a new town where we knew no one. Our new next door neighbor turned out to be a bicyclist. We had lots of kids and not much money so we didn't have much budget for recreation. I rode every Saturday morning with my neighbor, but my wife didn't have even that benefit. When we tried to do a organized group ride, she was nearly killed when she touched wheels with me and ended up looking at the underside of a pick up truck.

One day, an acquaintance offered me a tandem bicycle. It was a Schwinn Twinn coaster brake bike that had been left out in the rain. All of the components were badly rusted and unuseable, but I thought I could make a rideable bike from the frame. The first person I talked to was a mechanic at the local bike shop. His dad owned a Schwinn Twinn five speed which he had upgraded to all alloy components. He sold me all of the parts he had taken off, including wheels, for $30.00. After buying new tires, tubes, cables and the like, we had a rideable tandem bike for around $70.00. At the time, I thought it was all of the money in the world.

That turned out to be one of those life turning points. My wife and I rode that bike together almost every weekend. Eventually, we were able to buy progressively better tandems and even our own bike store.

Here's my question: Do you think this true story is an example of intervention by a higher power or is it just a happy coincidence? What do you think the odds are?
re: What are the odds?DougSloan
Aug 3, 2003 11:04 AM
First, don't try to attribute randomness, chance, to things that aren't random.

My view is that the Higher Power is not concerned with such mundane issues as bike riding, or even marital bliss. Creating a universe and life is probably about enough.

Also, we tend to create our own destinies, such as your knowing someone who sold you the old tandem, your visiting a bike shop and buying parts, etc. So, it's party happenstance, but enhanced happenstance due to your actions.

that would explain a lotColnagoFE
Aug 4, 2003 7:24 AM
for instance why there is poverty, aids, war.
bad thingsDougSloan
Aug 4, 2003 7:54 AM
I still can't quite come to grips with why God would allow bad things to happen. I know about free will and all that.

I suppose we are sort of limited in our thinking by a bit of ego/specie-centrism. I think we assume that God would think like we think.

For example, if I'm the father and I have kids playing in my back yard, will I allow them to hurt themselves or each other? Sure, I'll not walk around behind them and keep them from every falling down or eating a little mud, but if they were about to swallow gasoline or hit another over the head with a bat, I'd jump in. I want them to learn to be self-sufficient and get along without my always intervening, but I'm not going to stand by and watch them severely injure or kill each other. That's where my views of "father" versus "The Father" conflict. God must not think like we do, or else He knows much more than we do (duh).

Maybe God is a Clock Maker. Maybe God wants us to experience good and evil, exercising our free will, also hoping our free will, will form a relationship with Him. Maybe what really matters is the afterlife. I don't know. All I do know is that we don't think the same.

I think life can be like thisColnagoFE
Aug 4, 2003 7:21 AM
i dont neccesarily call it god, but if you set your mind on making something happen there are often strange coincidences that just seem to happen. can't explain it. some call it god, some call it fate, some call it magic. i just know that it happens to me when i really focus my will on something. try this out when you are in a crowded downtown area and need a parking space. nine times out of 10 if you have a positive attitude and just "know" there will be a space then magically one just opens up for you.