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Debka on killing of Hussein sons...(14 posts)

Debka on killing of Hussein sons...gtx
Jul 29, 2003 9:30 AM
http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=530

"The decision to kill Saddam Hussein's two sons Uday and Qusay when they were surrounded in a villa in Mosul - instead of taking them alive - was made by high-ranking officials in Washington to meet the overarching goal of showing the Iraqi people that Saddam Hussein and his like were doomed to be eliminated root and branch from Iraq's ruling system, never to return. Washington needed to hammer this message home to counteract the corrosive effect on Iraqis of the mounting guerrilla campaign on American troops and their failure to take out a single senior member of Saddam's inner circle since invading the country in March."
uday and qusay = bugs...ClydeTri
Jul 29, 2003 9:39 AM
squash them..I know..sound like a jackbooted thug, but, read their history..they were subhuman..one of them would have his bodyguards go grab women at their weddings and rape them before the ceremony....they got what they deserved...
agree, but...gtx
Jul 29, 2003 10:07 AM
those @holes definitely deserved it, BUT, this bothers me:

"If a person is determined to fight to the death, then they may very well have that opportunity," Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld told reporters today. "It was not a choice that the United States or the coalition made, it was a choice that the people inside that building made."

Why would we allow them any "choice"?--we had the manpower and technology to do whatever we wanted. I just don't believe that we would have killed them unless we fully intended to do so.
Saddam is said to say they're martyrs performing a JihadNo_sprint
Jul 29, 2003 9:42 AM
I wonder if a Jihad includes doing prostitutes, rape, torture, heroin and stealing the people's money and living a large life.
I was surprised that Saddam admitted that his sons were deadContinental
Jul 29, 2003 11:41 AM
I guess that he needs martyrs more than he needs the illusion of control and power. I think it would have been better for him if he could have come up with pictures and tapes of his sons showing an illusion that they were still alive.
You mean They are not still at Club Med Syria????Alpedhuez55
Jul 29, 2003 10:09 AM
I thought Debka said they had already escaped into Syria during the war and were hanging out at the beach sipping Daquaris with all the other high ranking Iraqi officials??? Was the Debka File actually wrong about that??? I suppose this must be the REAL truth then. Or Debka maybe they are just trying to steal readers away from the Onion!!!

Mike Y.
You mean They are not still at Club Med Syria????gtx
Jul 29, 2003 12:29 PM
well, I found it interesting that last week the Pentagon was confirming most of what Debka was running before the war officially started, with regards to bombing runs, general pre-war softening up, etc--stuff not reported by mainstream Western media. Obviously you gotta take everything with a grain of salt, I'm just concerned that no one seems to question the official party line on most of this stuff.
Debka: say everything, and sooner or later, you'll be right (nm)TJeanloz
Jul 29, 2003 12:32 PM
A thousand monkeys with keyboards will eventually type out the complete works of Shakespeare...
Debka: say everything, and sooner or later, you'll be right (nm)gtx
Jul 29, 2003 12:37 PM
gotta pay for it now, but here's the NYTimes article

"AFTER THE WAR: PRELIMINARIES; U.S. Air Raids In '02 Prepared For War in Iraq

By MICHAEL R. GORDON (NYT) 1391 words
Late Edition - Final , Section 1 , Page 1 , Column 5
LEAD PARAGRAPH - American air war commanders carried out a comprehensive plan to disrupt Iraq's military command and control system before the Iraq war, according to an internal briefing on the conflict by the senior allied air war commander.

Known as Southern Focus, the plan called for attacks on the network of fiber-optic cable that Saddam Hussein's government used to transmit military communications, as well as airstrikes on key command centers, radars and other important military assets."

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FA0D16FE34580C738EDDAE0894DB404482
Isn't the NYTimes "mainstream media"? I'm not paying (nm)TJeanloz
Jul 29, 2003 12:43 PM
?gtx
Jul 29, 2003 12:47 PM
Yeah, they're mainstram, and I'm not paying either. My point is it's in the NYTimes about 6-12 month late, by which point no one cares.
Didn't see the date, hidden in the corner,TJeanloz
Jul 29, 2003 12:52 PM
Debka also reported that SH was in France. Good call. I wonder when that story will break in the Times.
Didn't see the date, hidden in the corner,gtx
Jul 29, 2003 1:05 PM
I'm less interested in what Dekba says on a day to day basis than what ISN'T covered by most of our news agencies. A perfect example is the mass civilian graves in Panama following our invasion there (guess a few bombs hit some civilan apt. buildings, oops), reported at the time in papers like The Nation but only picked up and confirmed by CNN, the NYTimes many years later--long after anyone had any interest or probably even remembered what we did there.
Have any of you not figured out thatNo_sprint
Jul 29, 2003 12:48 PM
part of military action is not letting your enemies know all you know?

They certainly watch CNN.

This could have been to throw them off as the real mission was being planned.

How very logical and in my opinion, expected out of the best military in the land.

Sheesh. LOL