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anybody live in Boston?(5 posts)

anybody live in Boston?MJ
Jul 11, 2003 12:21 AM
I'd be interested to hear your views on this article

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,995827,00.html
I'll leave this one up to you, TJean, I'm too far removed. (nm)RhodyRider
Jul 11, 2003 8:31 AM
I'll take it,TJeanloz
Jul 14, 2003 6:57 AM
Boston's race/ethnicity situation is far too complicated to be described in a relatively short Guardian article. Too often, it is described by a single unfortunate photograph or incident. My opinion is that Boston suffers from the attitude of celebrating diversity. Each culture - and I'm not talking black-and-white - has its own community and neighborhood, and rarely do neighborhoods intersect. Boston remains very segregated, though more by comfort than anything else. And one can quite easily identify the neighborhoods that are the power bases for: Italians, Irish, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Cape Verdians, Hatians, Chinese (actually, it's more of an Asian bundling), Jews, and on and on. The segregation is NOT a public policy, by any means, but a matter of convenience - each neighborhood has institutions that cater to its own culture.

As for the specifics of the article, they are wrong in their premise that blacks are not out on the town on Saturday night. It is true that they are not out in force in the same places that I frequent, but I could name 10 clubs downtown that would have a >90% black crowd most nights of the week. It is an issue of cultural diversity - you generally don't find a big white crowd at the hip-hop clubs (one of which is regarded as the best in the country), and you generally don't find a big black crowd at the more upscale places. Why not? I have no idea, but I suspect that it's because there are fewer successful blacks in [downtown] Boston than we'd like to think there are. I think when this group holds an event, they pull a large percentage of the available population to the event, and that's just enough to fill one bar, one night. They can't fill every bar every night, and there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's too bad that they don't feel comfortable coming out without taking the place over.
Also,TJeanloz
Jul 14, 2003 7:09 AM
As an aside that I meant to mention, while this group has gotten a lot of press, I have never heard/seen anything of them outside of the media - it's not causing a 'stir' in town or anything, and most people seem to wonder why it's even news that a bunch of black people are going to a bar together.
interesting thanksMJ
Jul 14, 2003 7:41 AM
I just thought the article and topic was novel - my experience (in the US and here in the UK) is that socialising is often done in pubs/clubs/etc. along racial lines