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when it rains, it poursDougSloan
Jun 30, 2003 7:33 AM
Tax credit number 2 due in March. Details later.

Doug
Fantastic! Hope it's another boy.OldEdScott
Jun 30, 2003 7:47 AM
I'm marrying off a daughter this summer, and the cost of a wedding will MORE than wipe out those tax savings, believe me -- by a factor of about 10 zillion.
thanksDougSloan
Jun 30, 2003 8:19 AM
My wife swears it will be a girl, as she just "feels different" and karma, you know.

I'll be getting booted out of my dedicated bike training bedroom now.

Yes, I think a girl would be much more expensive, especially since we have a bunch of boy junk already. I'll bribe her to elope when the time comes.

Doug
Tried the bribe. Didn't work.OldEdScott
Jun 30, 2003 8:31 AM
I thought I raised her as a better capitalist than to turn down $30K as a nest egg, but hedonistic liberal that she is, she wants to blow that and a few other coins on a party. Damn left-wing libertine!
Congrats, but shouldn't she ...Live Steam
Jun 30, 2003 9:04 AM
have a strong innate desire passed on to her by her father to contribute the "nest egg" to some feed the whales group instead of blowing it on a party? She could then throw and an old fashioned "football wedding" like my grandparents had or like Susan Molinari had for that matter. (For those of you not familiar with the term, it is a wedding that cost about $100. The main course is a sub, hoagie or hero depending upon where you come from. Soda and beer are served and the sandwiches are passed out like footballs and everyone has a good time) Her desire to throw a $30 - $40k wedding sounds rather self-indulgent like you claim us conservatives to be :O) Heck I'm not spending that much in my own wedding. I thought it would look bad - the economy is in the crapper and all :O)
As I say, humilated ...OldEdScott
Jun 30, 2003 9:06 AM
Part of the problem is, she's marrying into horsy Lexington gentry. Yet another blow to my self image. I'm gonna need therapy before this is over, Steam.
Hey maybe you should teach her a hard lessonLive Steam
Jun 30, 2003 9:12 AM
and donate the money in her name. Afterall you do not believe in passing wealth on to the next generation. Her wealty inlaws can indulge her. That should make her a true conservative :O)
otohDougSloan
Jun 30, 2003 9:31 AM
Spending $30k on a wedding doesn't mean the money is gone, poof, forever.

Rather the money is returned to the economy -- the flower guy pays his bills and the minimum wage delivery guy; same for the baker, caterer, photographer, dress maker, etc. Plus, then Uncle Sam takes his cut at every step of the way -- very Liberal, in fact -- so, a big expensive wedding will both stimulate the economy and reduce the deficit. Good show, Ed!

Doug
That's right - the trickle down theory :O) nmLive Steam
Jun 30, 2003 10:04 AM
Girl vs. boy cost ratio at our house is at least 4:1cory
Jun 30, 2003 8:59 AM
I'm not kidding--it's astonishing even BEFORE you crank in the $6,000 worth of orthodontics and the soccer injuries. We tried hard to raise them without arbitrary gender distinctions (note to conservatives and other shut-ins: I'm talking about both of them being able to change a flat tire, not homosexuality), but once they hit kindergarten, it's impossible.
Just one small thing, which you think you'll be able to avoid but I'll be there to say HA, told you so!: When a 17-year-old boy buys a new shirt, he buys a new shirt. When his sister buys a new blouse, she needs new shoes to go with it, new pants or a skirt to go with the shoes, a sweater to wear if it gets cool (and never mind the closet FULL of winter clothing) and then she has to get her hair done.
On prom night, the difference approaches 1000 percent: He rents a moldy tux for about 75 bucks and she needs a new dress for $400, rock bottom. And hair and makeup and nails, of course. Then when you get to cars, guess who has to drive the old beater and who has to have a much newer one, plus a cell phone, because you can't risk HER being stranded if it breaks down...
It never ends. And we don't even BELIEVE in it. We've done nothing to encourage it and everything we can think of to DISCOURAGE it. It just IS.
But I have to say, Ed, that if I had a daughter who turned the cash in favor of a party, I'd be thinking DNA test....
She can't be mine. I'm so humiliated. nmOldEdScott
Jun 30, 2003 9:02 AM
oh myDougSloan
Jun 30, 2003 9:07 AM
Of course, this is a fait accompli, so no need to fret it, I suppose.

My wife knows this all too well, as she grew up in a very modest household, but still cost far more than her two older brothers. Guys play football and baseball -- school sports. Girls have expensive ballet lessons.

Hopefully schools will have uniforms then -- which is being hotly debated here now.

Doug
A Morris-Clinton idea I'm sure you can't possibly support! nmOldEdScott
Jun 30, 2003 9:08 AM
not very libertarian, eitherDougSloan
Jun 30, 2003 9:11 AM
I guess politics don't mean squat when dealing with internal family issues. You become very pragmatic.

Doug
You've really been busy, good work (nm)TJeanloz
Jun 30, 2003 7:48 AM
One unforeseen side effect of the Bush tax plan...
Wonderful news!! (nm)DJB
Jun 30, 2003 8:51 AM
re: when it rains, it poursAlpedhuez55
Jun 30, 2003 8:59 AM
Congrats Doug!!!
Congrats Doug. Seating for four please :O) nmLive Steam
Jun 30, 2003 9:14 AM
nothing but Chuck E. Cheese from now on, probably nmDougSloan
Jun 30, 2003 10:05 AM
or Happy Meals!!!! nmClydeTri
Jun 30, 2003 10:10 AM
nm
Congratulations...The Walrus
Jun 30, 2003 10:54 AM
...now, have you figured out how you'll be getting training wheels on a Bianchi when the time comes?
Congrats. Has anyone told you...........Len J
Jul 1, 2003 4:07 AM
that dealing with 2 kids is more than twice the work? It increases exponentially.

Hope all goes well with the pregnancy.

You are in for a big change. I have 2 boys & 2 girls. Having sons is great, but Having daughters is another world. Wait to you realize that you can't protect them from guys like you. That they have you wrapped around their little finger, that you really don't understand women and your daughter has become a woman. And just when you are accepting all this, she looks up at you with those adoring eyes and you realize that she's going to break your heart when she leaves and you are going to be happy for her. I wouldn't trade being a father to a daughter for anything in the world.

Again, congratulations and wishes for a happy & healthy pregnancy.

Len
thanks allDougSloan
Jul 1, 2003 6:11 AM
Good things to remember from everyone. Despite all the complexities and uncertainies of parenthood, all I really want is a good night's sleep. ;-)

Doug
"Cycling-Impotence Link Conclusively Refuted. Film at 11" (nm)Dale Brigham
Jul 1, 2003 7:03 AM
that's for certainDougSloan
Jul 1, 2003 7:19 AM
Don't know about the film (;-), but when number one was conceived I was putting in 500 mile weeks preparing for the solo Furnace Creek 508 -- on SLR saddles, no less. I was doing a solo double century almost every Saturday. No numbness.

Doug