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Does smoking in movies influence kids to smoke?(15 posts)

Does smoking in movies influence kids to smoke?ColnagoFE
Jun 11, 2003 8:56 AM
I was watching Risky Business last night on TV and noticed how glamorous smoking was made to seem in that movie. Start with upper middle class kids from Chicago from good families in the suburbs. Throw in smoking stogies at the poker game, lighting a pipe to Tom Cruise puffing on a cig with those cool Ray bans on. The pretty hooker with the heart of gold puffing on cigs. Pretty much every cool person in that movie lit up from time to time. Since this movie was aimed at teens is this irresponsible? Do today's teen movies glamorize smoking so much or was this just an 80s phenomenon? Maybe being from Boulder where there are laws preventing smoking in all bars and restaurants has made me more sensitive to people lighting up? I realize that some teens smoke, but this movie seemed to be over the top and I can remember others from that era that did the same.
most likely PRODUCT PLACEMENT....ClydeTri
Jun 11, 2003 10:00 AM
movies get paid to place products...notice those cans of Pepsi in movies? or driving by a McDonalds....advertisers think it works, or they wouldnt place them in movies...
Yes, I believe it does.purplepaul
Jun 11, 2003 10:06 AM
Lately I've noticed inhaling an inordinate amount of smoke while walking on the sidewalks. Lots of young people are smoking and I have no doubt that seeing movie icons doing it has an effect. While I would be all for banning smoking in public, I would not be for banning smoking in films unless the film was specifically directed at children. I believe it is up to the parents to instill values in their kids so that what they see in the media can only affect them so much.

I don't know why, exactly, but I've never smoked or taken drugs, including alcohol. I never hung out with people who did, or wanted to. To me, people who did that were weak. My father smoked a pipe and drank occassionaly. I didn't like him when he had a few, so perhaps that's where I got my ideas. No amount of Hollywood glamorizing could overcome the disgust I felt.
For me, NO!El Guapo
Jun 11, 2003 10:20 AM
Everyday I am out riding in the afternoon. I routinely pass cars or am passed by cars with drivers puffing away on their Marlboro, Kool, Newport, et al. I love the look of disbelief on their faces as I tear along at speeds they can't comprehend a bike going and all the while wondering how I can do it with such a relaxed look on my face. Now, I have considered smoking Marlboro's so I can collect "miles" and cash in for that REALLY cool inflatable raft and Mountainbike combo. Let's see ... all I need to do is smoke 3 packs a day for 9 years and I should have enough miles! Of course this will throw out all that CTS training! Cool raft, mountainbike + CANCER ...or... Good Health and Longevity ... Cool raft, mountainbike + CANCER ...or... Good Health and Longevity. DAMN! This is a tough decision!
you could buy some nice goodiesClydeTri
Jun 11, 2003 10:35 AM
for all that you would be spending on those cigs
Sure could, but ...El Guapo
Jun 12, 2003 7:04 AM
You can't just BUY a Marlboro labelled inflatable raft and mountainbike. You HAVE to collect the Miles by smoking their packs. I wonder if anyone else sees the IRONY behind the fact that Marlboro offers an INFLATABLE raft. I would place all the money I have made and ever will make in my lifetime, plus all my bikes, cars (diecast and actual), my 2 dogs, 3 kids, house, wife, grandparents and my neighbors on the betting table against another who might possibly believe a "lifetime" smoker could EVER fill an Inflatable raft using their LUNG power let alone RIDE a mountainbike even downhill for any length of time. Funniest thing I have ever seen is: Last months ProCycling mag has a one page article on Tristan Hoffman. I noticed that in the picture of him in full time-trial flite, on the left leg of his skinsuit is a small sponsor logo ... Marlboro Classic! I pray that Marlboro Classic is a reference to a regional race and not a Marlboro sponsored event.
Does NOT smoking in movies influence kids NOT to smoke? nmmohair_chair
Jun 11, 2003 11:01 AM
re: Does smoking in movies influence kids to smoke?aliensporebomb
Jun 11, 2003 12:20 PM
I remember that movie's over-the-top smoking use.

Another one that bugged me was the remake of Cape Fear
a few years back - every damn character smoked in that one
it appeared.

Anyway, yeah - I think it probably does - the teen aimed
movies probably makes it look "cool enough to try" and
when they're hooked they can't stop.
As much as anything elseNo_sprint
Jun 11, 2003 12:59 PM
Does a movie about scholarly kids influence them to be scholarly? Does a movie about punks influence them to be punks? Does a movie about scuba diving kids influence them to be scuba divers?

Maybe in some cases.
Without a doubt.Spoke Wrench
Jun 11, 2003 3:33 PM
If the things that we see on television and in the movies don't influence our behavior, an awful lot of really successful companies are wasting a ton of money on advertising.
I respectfully disagree!El Guapo
Jun 12, 2003 7:20 AM
As I sit here in my Reebok sweatsuit, Nike headband, Oakley shades, Adidas shoes, sipping a Pepsi, munching on Cooler Ranch Doritos, and typing into my Dell computer, I can CLEARLY say that I am no MINION! I will not fall to the powerful advertisements I see daily. I REFUSE brand names! I know that I if I smoke I will be "cooler" and will have MORE friends, but I've already got TONS of friends when I drink Bud Light and Smirnoff Ice! For some reason I REALLY am interested in American Classic wheels, though I can't remember just where I've seen the ad?!!!!!
Tobacco companies think so...Me Dot Org
Jun 11, 2003 9:51 PM
They've been "placing product" for decades and decades.

Here's an interesting link, which also has links to actual contractual agreements between tobacco companies and fllm producers:

http://www.smokefreemovies.ucsf.edu/problem/bigtobacco.html
dependsDougSloan
Jun 12, 2003 7:33 AM
Influence? Maybe.

Choosing a behavior like smoking is complex. I don't care if I saw 10,000 movies with smoking, I'd never do it because I grew up in a non-smoking household thinking it was about the most disgusting and harmful thing you could do. No amount of exposure would have mattered.

Others may grow up around smokers, and being exposed to movies and ads may be that incremental increase in exposure that increases the likelihood they will smoke. Might be the same for those who grow up with no guidance on the subject at all.

I'd bet the single largest factor is what your family does, not movies or ads.

Doug
dependsColnagoFE
Jun 12, 2003 8:24 AM
depends on who is your biggest influence at a key time in your life like the teen years. if it's your family then you'll likely not smoke, but many kids rebel against traditional family values at that time and can easily get influenced by peers and culture at that time.
First hand empirical data, of immediate nature.No_sprint
Jun 13, 2003 8:10 AM
A co-worker took his three kids to see that Nemo movie. They are all three now obsessed with having a fish tank in the house, and maybe even a swimming pool in the backyard with a whale shark in it.

LOL