|Who gets the nomination? Does it matter?||94Nole|
Jun 6, 2003 1:09 PM
|Here are your cast of characters (Kerry, Edwards, Bean, Graham, Gephardt, etc.)
Who gets the nod? Is there anyone here credible enough or with enough money or muscle to even challenge W and the Repubs in '04?
|Lost cause. No Democrat is low enough. . .||czardonic|
Jun 6, 2003 1:24 PM
|. . .to stoop to the level of Karl Rove. Who among the current Democratic candidates would stoop to the level of impersonating a hero the way our Deserter in Chief did on the Lincoln?|
Jun 6, 2003 1:50 PM
|Why not throw up (hehe) Sharpton or Jackson, maybe even Nader? Why not have a little fun with it?
|Maybe Nader could redeem himself.||czardonic|
Jun 6, 2003 2:04 PM
|Politically, he's got nothing to lose by challenging the popular myth of Bush's integrity.|
|I like Ralph||DougSloan|
Jun 6, 2003 2:10 PM
|There is something about Ralph I like. He's certainly anti-Libertarian in every respect, and I disagree with him tremendously, I but I envy his energy and do think he is sincere. I'd take him over Hillary any day.
|Maybe you like his talent for torpedoing Dem. campaigns? nm||czardonic|
Jun 6, 2003 2:17 PM
|LOL - this one is a throwaway, anyway ;-) nm||DougSloan|
Jun 6, 2003 2:23 PM
|Too bad Nader basically put Bush in office eh?||Sintesi|
Jun 6, 2003 2:54 PM
|I'm still after you but busy. Busy.|
|Will my sense of security be proven false? (nm)||czardonic|
Jun 6, 2003 2:58 PM
|ya, but Perot put Clinton in office... nm||DougSloan|
Jun 6, 2003 4:01 PM
|Just like Perot did for Clinton in '92 ...nm||BikeViking|
Jun 9, 2003 10:37 AM
|If Bill Clinton were to run again.....||Alexx|
Jun 7, 2003 12:01 PM
|...I'm sure he'd get the nomination.|
|It does matter||Alpedhuez55|
Jun 9, 2003 7:00 AM
|I think people said the same thing in 1992. Someone will emerege, my guess is it may be Edwards or Leiberman. There is even a Draft All Gore movement starting. I do not think it is done deal that W. will win, but he will have to screew up badll to lose.
|Sharpton's my man. He||OldEdScott|
Jun 9, 2003 7:28 AM
|would energize the base, and his ideas would galvanize the country.|
Jun 9, 2003 7:32 AM
|Not from an "I want him to lose" perspective (which I would). But from the perspective that somebody like him, or Nader, could really move national debate forward. The Democrats have strayed from ideology to get elected, and it really is presenting Americans with only one real choice. I would much rather have somebody throwing out real ideas about improving life (even if I don't agree with them), than a group of parrots reciting the latest poll numbers.|
|Sharpton's a more serious and intelligent man||OldEdScott|
Jun 9, 2003 7:41 AM
|than his reputation suggests. I bet all the folks who dismiss him as just another radical whacko haven't actually listened to him lately.
You may not agree with him, and most here certainly won't, but he has honest and well-thought-out positions, and he's VERY quick in debate.
|There's no doubt,||TJeanloz|
Jun 9, 2003 7:54 AM
|There is no doubt that Sharpton is a pretty bright guy, but completely unelectable, given the skeletons. I agree that he has very strong positions and can argue quite well, and I think that his presence is great for moving politics forwards - but he won't be elected.|
|I have admit he has appeared more likable ....||Live Steam|
Jun 9, 2003 8:03 AM
|and somewhat more literate and intelligent lately. He has put on an affable front since he announced his intentions. However his past certainly overshadows his future aspirations as a serious candidate. I believe he is still the snake oil salesman/opportunist he always was. Still, as of late, I like seeing him speak. Wow I can't believe I just said that :O)|
|What have you done with Steam?? Where is he,||OldEdScott|
Jun 9, 2003 8:19 AM
|you imposter ...
Sharpton's absolutely unelectable. But it's good to hear an unabashed old-fashioned liberal out there talking, and it's also been very interesting to see how well he's performed.
Like many people, I just thought he was a nutty self-appointed civil rights 'leader' for years. Now, I gotta say, with a different past and a better haircut, he could be a genuine national figure instead of a vaguely sinister joke. May be yet, if he keeps this up.
|Hey if the American public could elect Bill & Hillary ...||Live Steam|
Jun 9, 2003 8:24 AM
|they could elect anyone including Sharpton. Of course I will have to move to South America then :O) I'll get a seat next to Alec Baldwin on the plane!|
Jun 9, 2003 1:30 PM
|Liberal (Baldwin and others): Say they'll leave the U.S. if George is elected, still don't when elected again (shame).
Fiscal Conservative, social moderate (me in this case): Says he's embarrassed for the country when Bill is elected, and is, for several years, when twice.
|Didn't he propose a Flat Tax???||Alpedhuez55|
Jun 9, 2003 8:31 AM
|Well, if I had a vote in the Dem primary, it would be for Sharpton just for the humor factor. I thought I heard a few months back Rev. Al had a flat tax proposal. He should have Steve Forbes as his running mate. We can have a Sharpton / Forbes ticket. Nobody will be left out there. We will alienate the whole country.
Satin Sweat Suits for everyone!!!
|the Left would promote a religious leader?||DougSloan|
Jun 9, 2003 8:43 AM
|Wow, what a double standard. I thought the Left was panicked by the fact that Bush and Ashcroft occasionally used the word "God" and prayed. Now they would support the Reverend, a Pentecostal minister?
|Aw, he doesn't really preach or have a church. Remember?||OldEdScott|
Jun 9, 2003 8:58 AM
|Big scandal. He's a FAKE Reverend! That makes him A-OK with us Reds!|
|oh, got it||DougSloan|
Jun 9, 2003 9:13 AM
|As long as his religion if faked, then you're ok with him? At least you are by implication granting Bush and Ashcroft some sincerity points. (I'm starting to sound like czar)
Jun 9, 2003 9:29 AM
|We liberals are hypocrites that way. Lip service to religion, but not the real thing. Shudder.|
|got to broaden that constinuency, right?||DougSloan|
Jun 9, 2003 9:46 AM
|Got to capture the intellectual atheists as well as the union believers. I understand.
Intersting that politicians, particularly presidents, nearly always end speeches with "God bless America." I think some of them would be struck down if they attempted it too often. Just can't picture Hillary...
Nice candor, though.
|Not to mention ensure a Bush victory (NM)||94Nole|
Jun 18, 2003 12:23 PM
|Hey Ed maybe you can help some of these ....||Live Steam|
Jun 9, 2003 11:33 AM
|worthy candidates :O) Here's my favorite. You get him to the finals and I'll finally vote for a Domocrat! It's not where he stands on the issues so much, I just like the way he looks :O)
Albert "Al" Hamburg (Wyoming)
Oh here are some more good ones!
|This is Dick Cheney's dad?||OldEdScott|
Jun 9, 2003 11:35 AM