|Hey Young Scott! I just read your NOLA essay.||OldEdScott|
May 13, 2003 7:48 AM
|True, all true. But two absolutely wonderful writers lived in/near NOLA and wrote about the area: Walker Percy (across the lake in Covington) and John Kennedy Toole ('Confedreacy of Dunces.')
You read either?
|re: Hey Young Scott! I just read your NOLA essay.||sn69|
May 13, 2003 8:16 AM
|Never read Percy, I have read Toole. ...Talk about suffering for your art. I found Toole's ability to accurately paint a picture of the town to be remarkable, and quite possibly worthy of the Pulitzer on those merits alone. He got NOLA spot-on. In terms of story development, however, I thought he rushed the ending a bit, shufflying whats-his-face off with the chick rather quickly as the mother embarked on her new life. Dunno...perhaps Toole was simply tired of the character and wanted the story to end. I can certainly understand that sentiment.
I've heard that there's a new initiative to turn the book into a movie. That should be interesting.
Of course, the town also boasts Anne Rice, whose work I loved in high school (about the time that "Vampire Lestat" came out) but am cool on now. She's a good writer and a positive force within the local community, but I stopped finding her stories intriguing when I was in college and "discovered" Kerouac. Also, the endless parade of goth vampire wannabes in the Quarter--all dressed in black, faces painted white, fake teeth in, all full of angst and depression--amuse the hell out of me.
|You're quite right about Toole.||OldEdScott|
May 13, 2003 8:27 AM
|He caught NOLA PERFECTLY, note for note. And you're right about the ending too, but it's not really his fault. He blew his brains out before he really finished the book. He and his editor both knew the problem, and were trying to work it out when Toole just said to hell with it. Blammo.
Percy is the writer Toole's mother took the manuscript to after his suicide. Percy loved it, and arranged for LSU Press to publish it. (Did a little fatherly editing too, I think).
Tell you what, go buy 'Love in the Ruins.' It's a great Percy novel subtitled 'Adventures of a Bad Catholic at a Time Near the End of the World.' I believe you'll like it a lot. Read it and report!
|Aye aye, mon capiton!||sn69|
May 13, 2003 8:36 AM
|Ah yes, I seem to remember the whole story now. Why is it that neuroses and art seem to accompany one another so frequently?
Then again, another two years in NOLA and I might consider sucking on a 9mm lollipop.....
|The roll call of writers who||OldEdScott|
May 13, 2003 9:15 AM
|checked out early via self-inflicted wounds in depressing all right. Even heavily self-medicated with Bourbon (usually), they just couldn't STAND it. Sort of like I feel when I read Live Steam!|
|Awe now that was downright ...||Live Steam|
May 13, 2003 9:39 AM
|mean. Is it really me or is what I post starting to itch with truisms? I am really harmless you know. Actually I see myself as rather moderate compared to some here. Maybe I'll have to read The Washington Post and San Francisco Chronicle instead of the Times to get a better perspective on issues :O)|
|Now, now. Remember the poll on the||OldEdScott|
May 13, 2003 9:49 AM
|General Board, asking who on RBR you'd like to ride with? I listed you. I said it'd be the funniest ride of my life, and we'd measure it not by miles or hours but by the number of times you call me pantywaste.
That said ...
After I rip your pantywaste NYC legs off on six or seven of these steep Kentucky hills, I'd take you to this long, deserted stretch of bottomland, a Karst formation with LOTS of sinkholes that open and close overnight. There's lots of secrets concealed at the bottom of those sinkholes ...
|LOL! LOL! Ok, Ok! I'll try to ...||Live Steam|
May 13, 2003 10:06 AM
|be more tollerant of panty wastes, uh, I mean those with an opposing panty waste view :O) Hey you have hills in Kentucky do ya? Sounds like fun. Do we liquor up before or after the ride?|
|Watch out Steam. I think Ed has taken a shinin' to ya. nm||sn69|
May 13, 2003 10:12 AM
|That would be 'THE Shining.' nm||OldEdScott|
May 13, 2003 10:20 AM
|Hills, good Lord.||OldEdScott|
May 13, 2003 10:18 AM
|No less an authority than our own MB1 includes Kentucky hills among the Appalachian climbs that are harder than most climbs out West.
The concept of a 'recovery ride' is totally foreign to me, since I can't ride a mile in any direction from my house without hitting one of the beasts.
Riding in such conditions requires liquor before, liquor IN THE WATER BOTTLE during the ride, and something to calm your shattered nerves afterwards.
I'm always shocked to read these casual posts hereabouts: "I went out for a short lunchtime ride today. It was only 40 miles, an an average speed of 22-24 mph. I know that's slow, but I'm still in a cast for my broken leg ..."
I got your broken leg, pal. Come on down here. If you can put in a 'quick' 20 miles at an average speed of 10 mph, I'll vote for Bush for re-election.
|I'd heard or read somewhere that||carnageasada|
May 13, 2003 9:47 AM
|Toole actually preferred his original ending and the one in current editions is actually more in line with his editor's thoughts, who as you pointed out, had Toole rewrite it and rewrite it and rewrite it and rewrite it until he tragically did himself in. I've always wanted to see Toole's first draft to confirm one way or the other.|
|Don't expect a movie any time soon||mickey-mac|
May 13, 2003 10:31 AM
|"I've heard that there's a new initiative to turn the book into a movie. That should be interesting."
About 18 months ago, the LA Times ran a piece about the various efforts to turn "A Confederacy of Dunces" into a film. The rights have passed through the hands of numerous people--some famous, some not so--but nobody has been able to pull it off. The gist of the piece was that the effort to turn it into film seems to be cursed. Besides, who would be able to do justice to the Ignatius role?
|John Candy or Divine.||sn69|
May 13, 2003 10:44 AM
|Of course, both are pushing up the daisies, so the point is moot.
|John Candy or Divine.||mickey-mac|
May 13, 2003 11:24 AM
|Right, Candy was one of my choices before his unfortunate demise. I always thought "comedian" Louie Anderson looked the part, but I can't imagine he's much of an actor. However, after what moviemakers did to Nicole Kidman in The Hours, I'd imagine they can make just about any actor look the part.|
|You're forgetting James Lee Burke...||The Walrus|
May 13, 2003 8:47 AM
|...who, now that I think of it, lives in New Iberia, but that's sorta close. Somewhat uneven writer, but when he cooks, he's great.|| |