|France assisted Saddam in escape? O'Reilly Factor||Captain Morgan|
May 9, 2003 5:45 AM
|Did anyone see the show last night? I caught the tail end when a retired general claimed that we are getting information that France assisted the escape of many Iraqi regime leaders. He claims that the evidence which is being uncovered is so serious and convincing that it will "bring the Chirac government down." Did anyone see this? I only caught the last 30 seconds. Thanks.|
|re: France assisted Saddam in escape? O'Reilly Factor||Alpedhuez55|
May 9, 2003 6:28 AM
|I am sure the same general was one of the ones who said his intelligence sources told him Saddam died in the first bombing. A lot of these early reports have been proven false. I would guess Saddam is alive and in hiding with some Bathist loyalist in Iraq. But who knows, maybe we will see him in the crowds at the TDF!!!!
|The real story||torquer|
May 9, 2003 7:25 AM
|This story suggests how Saddam really got away:
May 9, 2003 6:30 AM
|This is pure BS.
I can't imagine what the motivation would be for France to help Saddam escape. What's in it for France? Just to piss off the USA? I find that very hard to believe. The UN/Iraq thing was a hiccup in the long line of friendly relations with France (arrogance and posturing aside) that both countries know will continue in the future, so why would France risk something that would cause a permanent breach? And still I ask, why? Chirac is not a stupid man. Is giving Saddam sanctuary or helping him to escape supposed to help France in some way? Saddam, if alive, has no power anymore. He has nothing to give. He can only cost France money and respect.
|why? according to the broacast...||ClydeTri|
May 9, 2003 7:09 AM
|the oldest of all reasons....$$$$$$$$$$$$...billions of dollars have flowed out of Iraq in the last few years to supposedly,and I say supposedly, France, Russia, Libya, Syria amongst others..|
|far too simplistic||mohair_chair|
May 9, 2003 7:46 AM
|That just makes it even more ridiculous. If France wants to stay a major player on the world stage, it can't directly link helping Saddam to $$$$$$$$$$$. The western world would never forgive France given its pre-war stance on Iraq. France's international relations would be set back decades, which would cost France more $$$$$$$$$$$ than it would receive from Saddam by orders of magnitude. France desperately needs and wants the respect and power that comes with being a major player. It doesn't need Saddam's billions bad enough to risk its long term reputation and economy on a short term gain. The whole thing is absurd.
Syria and Libya I can understand. France, no way.
|Well, O'Reilly is certainly an unimpeachable source... (nm)||retro|
May 9, 2003 7:25 AM
|How so? (nm)||Captain Morgan|
May 9, 2003 7:40 AM
|If reported on FoxNews, must be true. Let's invade France!||Dale Brigham|
May 9, 2003 7:35 AM
|I must admit to not being purely unbiased ("fair and balanced") in this matter, unlike FoxNews. Me and the missus are having a heck of a time finding lodging in Loudeac during PBP, as everything is already full. I'd bet a bunch of cycling "Surrender Monkeys" have already filled up the lodging reservations in that town and surrounding villages.
If (when) we invade, I hope to displace those Saddam-Lovers and requisition a nice B&B, ideally equipped with a comely French maid (Ooh, La-La!) at my disposal. (Not sure the wife will go for that.) Let those Dixie Chick-listening Euro-Traitors sleep in the ditches, I say!
Lead the way, Bill-O! I'm right (well, a few klicks back) behind you!
|Well, at least it wouldn't take long||Captain Morgan|
May 9, 2003 7:50 AM
|What did it take in Iraq to get to Baghdad, 8 days? I say we'd be in Paris in about two, maybe three days. France plays defense like the Sacramento Kings.
Seriously, seems to me that TDF has got to be the worst live spectator sport. Wait around... wait around... wait around... here they come!... there they go!... wait around... It almost makes baseball seem like a blistering pace.
|Clarification, Cap'n: I'm riding PBP, not spectating TdF.||Dale Brigham|
May 9, 2003 8:08 AM
These pesky acronyms often obscure rather than illuminate. PBP = Paris-Brest-Paris, 1,200 km randonnee. Not much of a spectator sport, unless you like to watch people fall asleep while dining. Or see cyclists tool along at 25-30 kph.
I agree with you that watching TdF in person does seem to be a lot of work for a brief glimpse of our "heroes." However, folks I know who have done so revel in the experience. Like many things in life, I guess ya' had to be there!
Let's get this invasion rolling, 'cuz I need to get my lodging set for August.
Have a great weekend, Cap'n!
|Well, at least it wouldn't take long||sacheson|
May 11, 2003 5:59 AM
|"Seriously, seems to me that TDF has got to be the worst live spectator sport. Wait around... wait around... wait around... here they come!... there they go!... wait around... It almost makes baseball seem like a blistering pace."
Have you ever been? If not, maybe you shouldn't pass judgement so quickly.
|re: France assisted Saddam in escape? O'Reilly Factor||gtx|
May 9, 2003 3:06 PM
|there's some stuff on ties with Chirac here