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Iraqi protest staged? Another tidbit...(6 posts)

Iraqi protest staged? Another tidbit...PdxMark
Apr 21, 2003 2:20 PM
I don't know who participated in the toppling of the big Saddam statue - whether it was staged, arranged or spontaneous. But one tidbit appeared from the AP in yesterday's local paper. For the first time I've seen, the photo caption stated that the US "tank" that helped topple the statue was an M-88 "tank recovery vehicle." Essentially, a tank tow truck.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m88-pics.htm

So, the odd thing is... what's a tank tow truck doing toodling around central Baghdad with nothing to do? THat doesn't sound right.

It seems reasonable that the vehicle was sent to do the job - since destruction of Saddam iconography is a (reasonable) activity. But it hints that we've not heard the whole story in the regular press.
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Apr 21, 2003 2:40 PM
I'm sure there was plenty to do. There were tanks and armored personel carriers in Bagdad at the time. Removing the symbols of Saddam's regime is an important military goal as well. Also, in the live broadcasts, they did mention explitcitly it was a tank recovery vehicle. Sorry to pee on your conspiracy campfire. . .
That's not news,TJeanloz
Apr 21, 2003 2:43 PM
Anybody who watched the event unfold live can tell you that the reporters on-scene were reporting that it was a "tank recovery vehicle" in their live reports. It should also be noted that the Iraqis were trying to knock the statue down for a good hour and a half before the "tank recovery vehicle" showed up. To address your question of what is a "tank recovery vehicle" doing in downtown Baghdad, the reporters on the scene said that it was standard practice for these vehicles to move with any group of tanks, to ensure that the tanks don't fall into the wrong hands in case one of them should become immobilized. It was also the obvious right tool for the job, with the long, extendable boom -- or at least more suitable than the M1's and Bradley Fighting Vehicles.
Where were the tanks? nmPdxMark
Apr 21, 2003 2:51 PM
On the periphery; they frown on driving tanks through crowds (nmTJeanloz
Apr 21, 2003 2:59 PM
not unusualmohair_chair
Apr 21, 2003 3:04 PM
If a tank is disabled or destroyed, it mucks up the battlefield. This is even more of a problem in a city, where there are narrow streets and less room to maneuver. Keep in mind that the disabled or destroyed tanks may not be your own. M-88s clear away enemy tanks, vehicles, and barriers, too. It's no surprise that there is one in Baghdad.

By the way, on the news the other day they showed a tank recovery vehicle pulling a huge generator out of a former palace and delivering it to a neighborhood. The M-88 dropped it into place, engineers hooked it up, and everyone was happy.