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''They are killing us, and no one's talking about it. We ...cycleaddict
Apr 17, 2003 12:18 PM
''They are killing us, and no one's talking about it. We want Saddam back,'' said Zahra Yassin, whose 17-year-old son was wounded in the stomach, reflecting a sentiment rarely heard now in the streets of Iraq.

source: yahoo news

These folks had better get it thru their heads--all we came for is the oil. New slogan for Bushies: "it's the oil, STUPID!!!"
You mean we actually killed some Iraqis? nmpurplepaul
Apr 17, 2003 12:22 PM
It's not insignificant that civilians are still being injured..PdxMark
Apr 17, 2003 1:08 PM
by US forces. Slaughtering Iraqi troops in war through disproportionate firepower is one thing... (maybe what you're alluding to). Collateral civilian injuries during a "war," if truly minimized, might even be acceptable. But civilian Iraqis getting shot after the collapse of the Iraqi military is a serious problem. It can undermine any hope of stabilizing Iraq. Imagine a Muslim army in the US still killing and wounding civilians...

I'm not saying that our troops aren't doing everything possible to minimize those injuries. But a dismissive attitude about possibly innocent people being injured is pretty disturbing.
How many?TJeanloz
Apr 17, 2003 1:36 PM
I don't know the answer here, but maybe somebody else does. How many people are shot in the US every day by the police? Expecting the US Military to act in a police role, without giving them the ability to use lethal force when necessary is ridiculous. "Innocent" civilian casualties seem to be minimized -- most of the killing appears to be taking place in riots or in the midst of other unlawful acts. And, according to the WSJ a few weeks ago, the military is not allowed to use tear gas to control crowds. I feel badly for every person injured in Iraq on both sides, but Iraq remains a dangerous place for US troops and Iraqi civilians alike.
I thought al-Sahaf was dead? nmDougSloan
Apr 17, 2003 12:27 PM
reality?DougSloan
Apr 17, 2003 12:36 PM
Tell us where he is...mohair_chair
Apr 17, 2003 1:05 PM
...and you can have Saddam back. Then come out and watch the hanging!
re: ''They are killing us, and no one's talking about it. We ...Live Steam
Apr 17, 2003 1:30 PM
You have a very small mind and an even smaller conscience. Saddam killed hundreds of thousands and you read one report of a civilian allegedly wishing Saddam was still in power and this becomes gospel to you? What about the thousands upon thousands that were cheering in front of the cameras? I guess you probably believe they had rifles to their heads? You have no moral character as far as I am concerned and your obvious hatred of Bush comes through very clearly. Maybe we can send the Iraqi in the story off to be with Saddam. Hey why don't you post the link so we can all read it to draw our own conclusions?
"thousands upon thousands"?rufus
Apr 17, 2003 4:49 PM
perhaps you are exagerating? i have seen celebrations, but none on the scale you are describing.
"thousands upon thousands"?Live Steam
Apr 17, 2003 4:53 PM
I guess you didn't see the parade of vehicles and people in the streets of Baghdad the day the statue came down. I know it's all a conspiracy. I am sure they would rather have Saddam back :O)
Steam's right.jesse1
Apr 18, 2003 1:55 AM
It was at least thousands upon thousands (which if I'm right, needs to equal a minimum of four thousand).
There is still time.SteveS
Apr 17, 2003 7:28 PM
There is still time to take your histrionics to the streets of Baghdad as a human shield. Seek out the Fedayeen or whomever and protect them. Be sure to chant,'it's the oil, STUPID!!!"

That it is. Stupid.