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so when is the war "over"?(10 posts)

so when is the war "over"?DougSloan
Apr 17, 2003 7:07 AM
Is it a "rolling victory" as mentioned by someone? When is the war considered "over," when you can't locate the enemy any longer, except for isolated snipers, etc.? Anyone have some insight on this?

Doug
re: so when is the war "over"?ClydeTri
Apr 17, 2003 7:12 AM
There is no government left to surrender...guess there are many options..how about when they dig Saddam's body out of the rubble?
When the last helicopter leaves the embassymohair_chair
Apr 17, 2003 7:20 AM
I'd have to say the war is over when the troops start coming home. Coalition troops are now an occupying force, so the war cannot be considered over until there is an infrastructure in place that allows them to leave. That means police at a minimum, and ideally, an effective government.

Even then, I'm not sure all the troops are coming home. My hope is that we keep "Bush International Airport" as a US airbase and get the hell out of Saudia Arabia for good.
spoken like a true neo-con.rufus
Apr 17, 2003 7:42 AM
for that is indeed one of their dearest wishes.
Trust me, I'm no neo-conmohair_chair
Apr 17, 2003 7:48 AM
I just think we should get out of Saudi Arabia, where we already have bases. They don't like us there and they don't need us there. They wouldn't let us use the bases for the Iraq war and they whined about cruise missles overflying their territory. Plus, we've been kissing their butts for years while they've been funding terrorists. I say screw 'em. If we are going to have long term bases in the Gulf region, Iraq will be a much friendlier place.
I say we pull out of S.A. also , but ....Live Steam
Apr 17, 2003 1:55 PM
the royal family would probably be holding on to the leg of the last military person to depart, begging him to stay. They want, no need the US presence there to keep their collective asses safe from the general population and the terrorists. The double dealing that goes on in that part of the World is endemic. They pat you on the back with one hand and stab you with the other.
When people stop talking about it on chat boards? : ) nmryder1
Apr 17, 2003 7:49 AM
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TodayCaptain Morgan
Apr 17, 2003 8:00 AM
For the first time since the war started, there were NO articles about the Iraq War on the front page of the Wall Street Journal. A week or two ago, I gave a seminar and held up that day's WSJ which had NO articles about any companies on the WSJ's front page (it was all Iraq and one SARS article that day).
When the terrorists say it is... nmrwbadley
Apr 17, 2003 11:46 AM
The fat lady hasn't sung yetStarliner
Apr 17, 2003 11:48 AM
Sure the major gunfire has abated but the answer to your question is relative to how one defines "war". Some people feel that the war begun on 9/11.

What I will say is that the struggle to defeat anti-american hatred is not close to being over. What took place during the last several weeks was only a phase, in which we opened a vacuum that now needs to be filled. When and by whom are big questions that loom.

So no, I wouldn't say things are over just yet. They've just begun, and the reasons why I felt this war was a wrong choice are now going to be played out. Such as my skepticism as to whether freedom and democracy will work in Iraq without a lot of investment in our own resources and patience, and my skepticism as to whether the USA will have the staying power to follow it through.