|Did anyone catch the broadcast of the Navy helo crew||sn69|
Apr 2, 2003 12:30 PM
|who rescued the S-3 guys? The aircraft commander is my old roommate. He's called BUFF...Big Ugly Fat F------. Incidentally, he rides a Softride.|
|re: Did anyone catch the broadcast of the Navy helo crew||Live Steam|
Apr 2, 2003 12:37 PM
|I saw it earlier while riding the trainer. I guess you must feel a sense of pride that you trained well to do an important job. I was proud for them and happy that the pilots were retrieved without incident!
Hey what have you elected to do about the sale of your house? Agent, no agent?
|Still mulling it over||sn69|
Apr 2, 2003 12:42 PM
|We've still got a bit of time to spare, so we're in the process of entertaining the four informal offers we had. In short, we've lobbed the ball back to their courts to see what they come back with. We've also selected an agent to work with if we decide to go that route.
In another "close to home" incident, the RIO of the Tomcat crew that had to eject yesterday is the friend of one of my wife's work buddies. Small world at times.... BUFF, incidentally, was embarrassed about the cheesey 'stache; the media folks didn't give him time to run back to his stateroom to shave it off.
Apr 2, 2003 12:59 PM
|Aren't S-3s for anti-sub patrol? Are they flying them out of routine, or is there actually a sub threat?
I seem to remember from my aircraft fascination days that the S-3 also has a capsule-type eject system, rather than two individual ejection seats. I guess you have to do that when the pilots sit side-by-side. I think the A-6 is the same, and maybe the B-1, too. That must be an interesting way to punch out.
Apr 2, 2003 1:13 PM
|Like most every carrier aircraft, the S-3's mission has evolved over the years. Their primary purpose in these, their waning years, is that of mission tanker. They are gas pigs and can carry oodles of the stuff. Hornets, on the other hand, have notoriously short legs and require constant tanking.
In addition to tanking, S-3s also conduct anti-ship operations and electronic intelligence gathering. They--the VS (S-3) community--gave up ASW a few years ago. The aircraft is reliable, but pretty old and they are going to start going away within the next three years.
Also, they have standard ejection seats, although like all multi-seat aircraft, the seats fire in a specific order so the seats don't collide. In this case, the S-3 was only flying with a crew of two since it was doing tanker stuff. It's great that both got out with minor injuries (sprained backs and burns).
Referencing your first question again, carrier air wing composition is standard, so even though this is a ground war with little seaborne combat potential, the CVW (air wing) still has it's normal mix of F-14s, FA-18s, SH-60Fs, HH-60Hs, E-2s, EA-6Bs, S-3s and C-2s.
|you're thinking about P-3 Orions for ASW nm||hycobob|
Apr 2, 2003 7:05 PM
|I didn't like them very much when I was enlisted. Served on two boats '82-87.
|They're still very much in the game||sn69|
Apr 2, 2003 7:21 PM
|P-3s with their new ACIP upgrades provide various levels of real-time over land targeteering not unlike JSTARS, although on a more limited level. Those folks are just as active as everyone else, particularly in the other war (Afghanistan).
It's all a team effort...even if they are shore-based. Of course, I'm a slacker C-9 guy now if you remember what that is.
Apr 2, 2003 2:22 PM
|CNN has no mention of a 14 crew punching out. Do you have more details, or would you like me to pretend you didn't mention it? ;)|
Apr 2, 2003 2:36 PM
These Navy flyboys sound like real wimps to me!!! Can you imagine what the infantry guys are going to say when they read this:
Asked how long they spent on the ground in Iraq, he said, "I don't know. It seemed like forever, I know that."
|Fighter Guys...'nuff said. ;-P||sn69|
Apr 2, 2003 2:57 PM
Apr 2, 2003 2:38 PM
|From Air Wing 5 on board the Kitty Hawk. They had some sort of engine or fuel malfunction yesterday and had to eject over southern Iraq. The jet, of course, was totalled, but both guys are fine. They were rescued quickly and returned to Kitty uneventfully.
I think it's still posted on Yahoo news.