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A Familiar Outcome For Iraq(7 posts)

A Familiar Outcome For Iraqczardonic
Apr 1, 2003 1:56 PM
http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/7505/view/print

Once the war is over, the Americans will encourage no disruptive social revolutions, no splitting up the country to provide an ethnic Kurdish homeland, and certainly no fully democratic elections that might bring Islamic fundamentalists into power. Bush has always said that he wants "regime change," but also that to him the regime is essentially Saddam Hussein and a few key commanders. . .

I think the piece goes a bit far in predicting that the Ba'ath Party will be left in power under a new name and management. Still, I think it is quite likely that "regime change" will be a switch from one authoritarian to another.
Isn't that basically how Saddam came to power? (nm)ColnagoFE
Apr 1, 2003 3:28 PM
I don't think we installed him, but we were happy to support him. . .czardonic
Apr 1, 2003 3:33 PM
. . .back when he was an America-friendly genocidal maniac.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend? nmDougSloan
Apr 1, 2003 4:42 PM
That seems to have been the assumption. (nm)czardonic
Apr 1, 2003 5:08 PM
At least until he pumped two Exocets into Stark.sn69
Apr 1, 2003 6:15 PM
And gassed the Kurds.
And invaded Kuwait.

We have a bespotted history of supporting the wrong people, to be certain. Still, our support for this guy was far less flagrant/substantial than that of other tyrants like Pinochet, Batista, the Shah, Marcos, Noriega, etc....

It's a shameful burden I think we have to bear as a nation though...as if what we did to the native peoples of this land wasn't bad enough or to Japanese Americans--I highly recommend visiting Manzanar; it's profoundly sobering. (Ironically, it's a wonder the left-leaning thought police have never gone after the Army for naming so many of their weapons systems after Indian tribes. That, in turn, is done in tribute, but I think that's lost on many.)

In any case, thanks to all for the spirited reading on the board today. Good points made by all sides.

Scott
so much for spreading democracy.rufus
Apr 1, 2003 5:32 PM