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Related to "Hollywood Idiots" post belowFez
Mar 20, 2003 11:22 AM
Original poster wrote:

"Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American."

Janine Garafolo was on a talk show and said she considered Pres Bush as much of a threat to the world as Saddam, but in a different way.

She then went on to say that if we go in and find chemical weapons, then she would apologize for that statement.

I don't care how much you dislike or disagree with your President. Equating him as much of a threat as a genocidal dictator? She and Jessica Lange can always stop being Americans and move elsewhere.
The Hollywood "intelligentsia" ???PaulCL
Mar 20, 2003 12:15 PM
This was emailed to me. A long read, but worth it...

Who’s Smarter?
By Cindy Osborne

The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding antiwar rallies, screaming about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the President and his Cabinet every chance they get, to anyone and everyone who will listen. They publicly defile them and call them names like "stupid,” "morons", and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.

So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's look at the biographies of these "stupid", "ignorant”, "moronic" leaders, and then at the celebrities who are castigating them:

President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business in Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic reelection victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican other that Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began circulating a false story about his IQ being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you might want to go to URBANLEGENDS.COM and see the truth.)

Vice President Dick Cheney earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966, both in political science. Two years later, he won an American Political Science Association congressional fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's primary duties is to share with individuals, members of Congress and foreign leaders, President Bush's vision to strengthen our economy, secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In his official role as President of the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes to Capitol Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of Representatives to work on the Administration's legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has seen first hand the great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men and women of our military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they are doing for the United States of America.

Secretary of State Colin Powell was educated in the New York City public schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. He also participated in ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in June 1958. His further academic achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from George Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous US and foreign military awards and decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian awards include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President's Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished Service Medal. Several schools and other institutions have been named in his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and colleges across the country.

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: attended Princeton University on Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator; Congressional Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the President, Director of the Office of Economic Opportuni
OOPSPaulCL
Mar 20, 2003 1:11 PM
Two mistakes....
1. I didn't read the post below before posting my message and
2. My message didn't post completely....

Oh well...its' been a long day
re: Related to "Hollywood Idiots" post belowjtolleson
Mar 20, 2003 3:39 PM
Hey, they are entitled to their opinions. I don't see why folks get so concerned one way OR the other about what the glitterati says about politics.

In mild defense of the Garafolo statement, which has been much maligned among the current conservative talking head crop on the radio, it is not that irrational a statement. Even those who support the war should recognize that our almost-unilateral assault on a country within its own borders is its own kind of threat to stability in that region.

You may consider it a justified threat for a higher objective, but you have to admit it is a dramatic destabilizing act without the power of international consensus behind it.

Hence the reference to a threat "to the world" which is the qualifier that your "genocidal dictator" remark doesn't acknowledge.
Agree and DisagreeFez
Mar 20, 2003 4:24 PM
Its a dirty job to go into Iraq and do what has to be done. But someone has to do it. Perhaps bombing the hell out of Iraq is a little destablizing to the innocent civilians, but lets not forget what has been going on there and what will continue to go on if Saddam and his cronies continue. Remember the gassing of the Kurdish people?

Its funny how when there is so much evil going on outside our borders, Garafolo says our President is threat to the world when he tries to address the evil going on inside Iraq.

I can accept someone criticizing the hell out of our President. But he should never have been referred to as a threat on the same level as Saddam.
re: Related to "Hollywood Idiots" post belowSkip
Mar 20, 2003 4:04 PM
It's easier to portray the President, where your lines and action are scripted and directed, and you can re-shoot the scenes over and over until you get it right, than to actually live it.