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A little something regarding my neighbors, Hollywood idiots.(28 posts)
|A little something regarding my neighbors, Hollywood idiots.||No_sprint|
Mar 20, 2003 10:59 AM
|Long, but oh so very worth it!
The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the President and his Cabinet every chance they get, to anyone and everyone who
will listen. They publicly defile them and call them names like "stupid", "morons", and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.
So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's look at the biographies these "stupid", "ignorant" , "moronic" leaders, and then at the celebrities who are castigating them:
President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business in Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic re-election victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican other than Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you might want to go to URBANLEGENDS.COM
and see the truth.)
Vice President Dick Cheney: Earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966, both in political science. Two years later, he won an American Political Science Association congressional fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's primary duties is to share with individuals, members of Congress and foreign leaders, President Bush's vision to strengthen our economy, secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In his official role as President of the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes to Capital Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of Representatives to work on the Administration's legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has seen first hand the great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men and women of our military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they are doing for the United States of
Secretary of State Colin Powell: Educated in the New York City public schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. He also participated in ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in June 1958. His further academic achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from George Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign military awards and decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian awards include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President's Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished Service Medal. Several schools and other institutions have been named in his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and colleges across the country. (Note: He retired as Four Star General in the United States Army)
Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: Attended Princeton University on Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator; Congressional Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the President, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunit
Mar 20, 2003 11:01 AM
|Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: Attended Princeton University on Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator; Congressional Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the President, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity, Director of the Cost of Living Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambassador to NATO, 1973-74; head of Presidential Transition Team, 1974; Assistant to the President, Director of White House Office of Operations, White House Chief of Staff, 1974-77; Secretary of Defense, 1975-77.
Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge: Raised in a working class family in veterans' public housing in Erie. He earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U.S. Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor. After returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law Degree and was in private practice before becoming Assistant District Attorney in Erie County. He was elected to Congress in 1982. He was the first enlisted Vietnam combat veteran elected to the U.S. House, and was overwhelmingly re-elected six times.
National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice: Earned her Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (Cum Laude). She earned a Master's Degree at the University of Notre Dame and a Doctorate from the University of Denver's Graduate School of International Studies. Both of her advanced degrees are also in Political Science.) She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the
University of Notre Dame in 1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions. From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military. She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has encompassed
Mar 20, 2003 1:05 PM
|If Bush is in real political trouble for re-election, he could always dump Cheney and make Condoleeza his running mate. Super smart, tough, educated, experienced, Republican, and being an African-American women might just help with some demographics. I'd like to cast a vote for her to be President someday. Interesting historical fact--during the civil rights movement she was in the church (Motegomery, AL?) that was bombed by the Klan, killing 3 young girls.|
Mar 20, 2003 1:39 PM
|Her and Colin Powell are about the only two people that I trust in Washington.|
|shows nothing but lack of substance||DougSloan|
Mar 20, 2003 11:04 AM
|Anyone resorting to name calling, like "stupid" or "moron", or whatever, shows their lack of substance. It's playground behavior. It also shows the emotional, biased (dare I say "prejudiced"?), knee-jerk politically opposed nature of their "thinking."
These actors and others that do this are, I hope, seriously injuring their careers. What's fair is fair. Live and die by the publicity sword.
|The Best and The Brightest...||Me Dot Org|
Mar 20, 2003 11:05 AM
|...always make the best decisions, don't they? Ask Bob MacNamara.|
|You should have left Bush off that list.||czardonic|
Mar 20, 2003 11:12 AM
|He was a C- student, an undeniable example of affrimative action for the wealthy. The same preferential treatment landed him a cushy spot in the "Champagne Brigade", and he wasn't even able to complete that responsibility while the sons of the poor were dying in actual service the country.
Bush's record and reputation are total write offs. You'd be better off leaving them unmentioned.
|You should have left Bush off that list.||purplepaul|
Mar 20, 2003 11:17 AM
|I don't know. The demographics of those who elected him were surprisingly broad. I think that's quite an accomplishment and was something I was unaware of. He's always struck me as rather dim.|
|As you can see from the CVs of those around him. . .||czardonic|
Mar 20, 2003 11:22 AM
|. . .he was groomed and handled by some very capable people. He is kind of a "regular guy" puppet. Note that most of his fans don't mention his Ivy League qualifications (such as they are) or his service to the country (such as it was) as their reasons for liking him.|
|As you can see from the CVs of those around him. . .||purplepaul|
Mar 20, 2003 11:26 AM
|I guess I'm just way out of the mainstream because whenever a president is said to be so likeable (Bush, Reagan), I usually find them just the opposite. It's not a knee-jerk reaction because my opinion is usually established before the public sentiment is pronounced.|
|Broad demographics?||Me Dot Org|
Mar 20, 2003 11:58 AM
|Bush got 9% of the black vote nationally.|
Mar 20, 2003 12:05 PM
|President George W. Bush: He was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic re-election victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican other than Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you might want to go to URBANLEGENDS.COM
and see the truth.)
|Sure. But all that was on Planet Texas. (nm)||czardonic|
Mar 20, 2003 12:10 PM
|Sure. But all that was on Planet Texas||purplepaul|
Mar 20, 2003 12:22 PM
|No argument there. Still surprised me.|
Mar 20, 2003 3:06 PM
|A C- at Yale before the 1980s-present grade inflation was considered quite respectable. According to the people I know who were at Yale at the same time as GWB, anything better than a C+ qualified you as a poorly-rounded nerd who was capable of nothing but studying.|
|Continued again, it gets even better||No_sprint|
Mar 20, 2003 11:55 AM
|She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco. Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she resides in Washington, D.C.
So who are these celebrities? What is their education? What is their experience in affairs of State or in National Security? While I will defend to the death their right to express their opinions, I think that if they are going to call into question the intelligence of our leaders, we should also have all the facts on their educations and background:
Barbra Streisand : Completed high school Career: Singing and acting
Cher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade. Career: Singing and acting
Martin Sheen: Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton. Career: Acting
Jessica Lange: Dropped out college mid-freshman year. Career: Acting
Alec Baldwin: Dropped out of George Washington U. after scandal. Career: Acting
Julia Roberts: Completed high school. Career: Acting
Sean Penn: Completed High school. Career: Acting
Susan Sarandon: Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C. Career: Acting
Ed Asner; Completed High school. Career: Acting
George Clooney: Dropped out of University of Kentucky. Career: Acting
Michael Moore: Dropped out first year University of Michigan. Career: Movie Director
Sarah Jessica Parker: Completed High School. Career: Acting
Jennifer Anniston: Completed High School. Career: Acting
Mike Farrell: Completed High school. Career: Acting
Janeane Garofelo: Dropped out of College. Career: Stand up comedienne
Larry Hagman: Attended Bard College for one year. Career: Acting
While comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we should also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security. They are privy to information gathered around the world concerning the Middle East, the threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and terrorist-supporting governments. They are in constant communication with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own military, and that of our allies around the world. We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge of the threats because we watch CNN!! We cannot believe that we are in any way as informed as our leaders.
These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no fact-finding groups, no insight into the minds of those who would destroy our country. They only have a deep seated hatred for all things Republican. By nature, and no one knows quite why, the Hollywood elitists detest Conservative views and anything that supports or uplifts the United States of America. The silence was deafening from the Left when Bill Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory outside of Khartoum, or when he attacked the Bosnian Serbs in 1995 and 1999. He bombed Serbia itself to get Slobodan Milosevic out of Kosovo, and not a single peace rally was held. When our Rangers were ambushed in Somalia and 18 young American lives were lost, not a peep was heard from Hollywood. Yet now, after our nation has been attacked on its own soil, after 3,000 Americans were killed, by freedom-hating terrorists, while going about their routine lives, they want to hold rallies against the war.
Why the change? Because a Republican sits in the White House.
Another irony is that in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was in office, the Ho
Mar 20, 2003 11:56 AM
|Another irony is that in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was in office, the Hollywood group aligned themselves with disarmament groups like SANE, FREEZE and PEACE ACTION, urging our own government to disarm and freeze the manufacturing of any further nuclear weapons, in order to promote world peace. It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this group for HIM to disarm. They believe we should leave him alone in his quest for these weapons of mass destruction, even though it is certain that these deadly weapons will eventually be used against us in our own cities.
So why the hype out of Hollywood? Could these celebrities believe that since they draw such astronomical salaries, they are entitled to also determine the course of our Nation? That they can make viable decisions concerning war and peace? Did Michael Moore have the backing of the Nation when he recently thanked France, on our behalf, for being a "good enough friend to tell us we were wrong"? I know for certain he was not speaking for me. Does Sean Penn fancy himself a Diplomat, in going to Iraq when we are just weeks away from war? Does he believe that his High School Diploma gives him the knowledge (and the right) to go to a country that is controlled by a maniacal dictator, and speak on behalf of the American people? Or is it the fact that he pulls in more money per year than the average American worker will see in a lifetime? Does his bank account give him clout?
The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities have made a shambles of their own lives, with drug abuse, alcoholism, numerous marriages and divorces, scrapes with the law, publicized temper tantrums, etc. How dare they pretend to know what is best for an entire nation! What is even more bizarre is how many people in this country will listen and accept their views, simply because they liked them in a certain movie, or have fond memories of an old television sitcom!
It is time for us, as citizens of the United States, to educate ourselves about the world around us. If future generations are going to enjoy the freedoms that our forefathers bequeathed us, if they are ever to know peace in their own country and their world, to live without fear of terrorism striking in their own cities, we must assure that this nation remains strong. We must make certain that those who would destroy us are made aware of the severe consequences that will befall them.
Yes, it is a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists and join hands, singing Cumbaya and talking of world peace. But it is not real. We did not stop Adolf Hitler from taking over the entire continent of Europe by simply talking to him. We sent our best and brightest, with the strength and determination that this Country is known for, and defeated the Nazi regime. President John F. Kennedy did not stop the Soviet ships from unloading their nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962 with mere words. He stopped them with action, and threat of immediate war if the ships did not turn around. We did not end the Cold War with conferences. It ended with the strong belief of President Ronald Reagan... PEACE through STRENGTH.
|Hmm. . .GOP intellectual elitism?||czardonic|
Mar 20, 2003 12:08 PM
|This certainly sheds a new light on the "just plain folks" routine Bush trots out when he is stumping in the "heartland". I guess it's easy to sucker Joe and Jane America when you have a couple of Ivy League degrees under your belt.|
Mar 20, 2003 12:44 PM
|It sounds to me as if the Left-wing Hollywood dilettantes possess about the same amount of intellectual probity and insight as the present extreme Right Wing clique that runs Washington. Perhaps they deserve one another. The sad irony is that probably the rest of the world deserves neither!|
|Hey wait a second!||Me Dot Org|
Mar 20, 2003 1:00 PM
|The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities have made a shambles of their own lives, with drug abuse, alcoholism, numerous marriages and divorces, scrapes with the law, publicized temper tantrums, etc. How dare they pretend to know what is best for an entire nation! What is even more bizarre is how many people in this country will listen and accept their views, simply because they liked them in a certain movie, or have fond memories of an old television sitcom!
Are you putting the knock on Death Valley Days or GE Theater?
Sure Ronnie divorced and his kids had problems with drugs and alcohol, but didn't you just love him in Bedtime for Bonzo?
|Hate Hollywood liberals? This will make you feel better:||torquer|
Mar 20, 2003 1:37 PM
|Harvard MBA is a Harvard MBA||No_sprint|
Mar 20, 2003 12:12 PM
|I've got friends who attended Wharton, Princeton, Harvard and many other grad schools. They can verify that it aint no cakewalk.
I've got friends who attended Harvard, UCLA, USC, Loyola, OU, Georgetown and Whittier Law schools. Same gig, no cakewalk for a normal person. A JD from an ABA school, no matter what school, no matter what grades, is no cakewalk and very respectable.
|Sure. No cakewald for a <i>normal</i> person.||czardonic|
Mar 20, 2003 12:17 PM
|I think Bush's business record speaks for itself.|
|Your bent is so completely obvious that you||No_sprint|
Mar 20, 2003 12:24 PM
|don't need to respond to every single posting. It's really boring. You and Daschle are twins. Your job is simple blind bashing.
Trust me, before you post anything, we all know what is coming from you. You can save it.
|Harvard MBA is a Harvard MBA - Ditto||McAndrus|
Mar 20, 2003 12:18 PM
|As an MBA from a no-name state school in Michigan I have tremendous respect for graduates from programs like Harvard, Wharton, Yale, Chicago, and Stanford. No-name University was a ton of brain work and hard labor. Anyone who gets an MBA from the brand-name schools gets a tip-of-the-hat from me.|
Mar 20, 2003 12:20 PM
|Been there done that. Tough goin', actually worse than tough for this normal (not naturally gifted in art of schooling) person. It was f$#%in' brutal.|
|I though these people were going to leave?||TJeanloz|
Mar 20, 2003 3:14 PM
|I thought the Hollywood crowd mostly declared that they were going to leave the country if GWB became the President in 2000?|
|I though these people were going to leave?||No_sprint|
Mar 20, 2003 3:30 PM
|I wish they had. No balls. Hot air. Smoke in the wind. Verbal diarrhea.
When our great President was elected there were huge email campaigns circulated to them, (mostly their publicists) calling them to hold fast to their word. Of course they didn't. Do they ever? Some of them have only 9th grade educations, they never got to those *advanced* classes like honor, promise, morals, ethics, virtue and truth.