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The necessity of lapel pins(6 posts)

The necessity of lapel pinsMe Dot Org
Mar 7, 2003 9:24 AM
I've noticed that while virtually all U.S. administration officials wear American Flag lapel pins, you never see anyone from another country wearing their country's lapel pin flags.

Not Britain, not Spain, not France, not Germany.

Don't these people know that you can't tell a patriot without a lapel pin? Don't they know a person is fundamentally remiss in representing their country without one?

Why is it that the Unites States is the one country that seems to understand the value of lapel pins?
Not just pins, but flags everywheretorquer
Mar 7, 2003 11:55 AM
I've always been struck by the number of flags on display, flying in front of every kind of building. Go overseas, when you see a national flag it almost surely denotes a government building. Here, it decorates every fast-food drive-thru, used-car lot and barber shop. (And don't get me started on all the flag-bedecked SUV's that appeared after 9/11...)

And the outrage when flag burning was declared constitutionally protected free speech! The reaction was as if some religious shrine had been desecrated.

My guess is that the flag is especially important as a symbol of unity in our country, where many diverse groups have been thrown together; a flag's value as a shared object of devotion is not necessary in other, relatively heterogenous, countries.
Outgrowth of 9/11TJeanloz
Mar 7, 2003 11:56 AM
The flag lapel pin only came into vogue in the period following September 11; and in that period, it was practically an insult not to wear one. At this point, I think people just keep wearing them because there is no good reason not to.
Outgrowth of 9/11Me Dot Org
Mar 7, 2003 1:03 PM
While I would certainly agree that 9/11 has precipitated a dramatic increase in showing the flag, it was certainly not unknown for American politicians to wear flag lapel pins before 9/11.

It just seems that for politicians, lapel pins seem to be a pretty much an American phenomenon.
re: Powell wore on at the UN security council meeting todayjrm
Mar 8, 2003 9:32 AM
IMO: it seemed kinda arrogant and in dispite of the UN opposition to us acting on Iraq unilaterally.

Hey lets blow the shlt outta Saudi Arabia, They were known to have financed 9/11.
Hey stupid,53T
Mar 12, 2003 6:40 AM
Last I looked the UN was not is opposition to anything the US plans to do. The UN can hardly form a unified opinion on such an issue. The leadership of France, Germany and the Russian Federation are in opposition to more forceful action in Iraq.

I think Powell's lapel pin was a statement that he believes the UN is largely useless. Since the end of the cold war, it is the US that matters. The only way that the other "major powers" will have a chance to balance against the US to act together. The UN has failed to bring them together, the EU has also failed. I think they are doomed to an extended period of American hegemony. I also believe there are much worse things that could happen the the world than that.