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Workings of a sick mind.(15 posts)

Workings of a sick mind.Spoke Wrench
Feb 28, 2003 8:23 AM
Sadam likes to pose for pictures holding swords and guns and stuff like that. How tough do you think he is really. Do you suppose he could take George W mano-a-mano?
I tend to think school yard bully.sn69
Feb 28, 2003 8:33 AM
Stalin and Idi Amin were the only two recent dictators I can immediately think of who could muster great physical strength and were prone to personal physical violence. Most others work through various layers of proxy, masking their own innate sense of inadequacy and self-loathing.

Guns and swords, incidentally, have become modern symbols of manhood and power throughout much of the Mid-East. It's a cultural thing, which is why Stormin' Norman used to always wear a side-arm when dealing with the coalition during GW1.
I think's why...rwbadley
Feb 28, 2003 8:45 AM
As a young man in a Seattle High school we received many Vietnamese refugee students. These kids were small, but they were tough in mind and body. They grew up tough, they grew up fighting. They were gentle, and generally not starting of trouble, but they would take care of themselves when pushed. I saw one demolish a much larger 'tough American kid' in a street fight once. Mopped the floor with him. At the age of 19 I had been in a traditional Korean martial art school for five years and was pretty good. I remember being in the ring with some of these little guys, they were sooo quick and fluid.

I am not comparing Saddam to the Viet youth except in this...

Saddam has been cagey and tough for his whole life. He would annihilate Bush jr in hand to hand. It would be no contest.

Just my opinion,

I think that's a great observation of the Vietnamesesn69
Feb 28, 2003 9:02 AM
refugees. I went to school with a lot of them in Houston at a time when the Klan was constantly burning their shrimp boats and haranguing them nonstop. Many of the other "monied" kids would pick on the children at my school for no reason other than they were small in stature, slightly built and not familiar with our cultural ideosynchrocies.

Yet I always found them to be delightful. I particularly like your characterization as gentle. That really struck me as a pervasive characteristic, and it impresses me even more in adulthood when I consider the horrors they suffered to escape Vietnam.

But the best part was their general resilliency...yes, I too bore witness to more than one small Vietnamese/American kid whoop the ever loving snot out of some school yard Texas toughie. It still makes me smile 20 years later.
My memory of them: Sweet, gentle andOldEdScott
Feb 28, 2003 9:45 AM
tough as nails. Having tangled with them a time or two, I'm not a bit surprised that the Texas toughie got whooped by the little Viet. Almost a metaphor, isn't it?
My memory of them: Sweet, gentle andsn69
Feb 28, 2003 9:53 AM
Gosh, yeah...I can just imagine the context in which you remember them. Wow.

It's interesting that I've heard McCain use many of the same words.
LBJ vs. Ho Chi MinhDale Brigham
Feb 28, 2003 10:01 AM
Does that work in your metaphor? Poor old Lyndon (my personal fave Texas President, BTW) got hisself tangled up in a pissin' contest that he shudda' know'd better than gettin' hisself into. As my Dad would say, it was "like tryin' to thread a noodle up a wildcat's rectum."

Seems to me that for the very best of reasons, we found ourselves in the very worst kind of war. Might even happen again, just not with Viet Nam (thank goodness!) the next time.

Motivation and discipline can compensate forOldEdScott
Feb 28, 2003 11:19 AM
a lot.

Lesson: Don't set out to 'liberate' someone unless you're damn sure they want to be 'liberated' -- and by you.
I disagreeryder1
Feb 28, 2003 9:28 AM
Although Saddam appears to be a tough guy, he looks pretty out-of-shape. Bush works out and jogs and is in reportedly pretty good shape. I can't picture Saddam jogging around the desert in some Nike outfit surrounded by a bunch of look a likes. Therefore, going the distance, I'd give the nod to Bush.
I think Saddam could take himColnagoFE
Feb 28, 2003 9:34 AM
George W doesnt strike me as the fighting type (at least one on one fighting--he seems perfectly willing to send other people in to fight for him). Probably had daddy's friends to protect him growing up.
Dubya by a knockout!Jon Billheimer
Feb 28, 2003 9:40 AM
He's in shape and he's an impulsive, aggressive personality. This may be a gross oversimplification, but I think a lot of what's going on somewhat has to do with these men's personalities and cultural trappings.
Cancel the war. Have a Texas deathmatch. nmContinental
Feb 28, 2003 9:47 AM
Celebrity Boxing: Bush vs Saddamempacher6seat
Feb 28, 2003 10:48 AM
I think Saddam would win. Keep in mind, this man used to be an assassin.
How about Tony Blair vs. Jacques ChiracSpoiler
Feb 28, 2003 10:49 AM
Let's see this pair of the most limp wristed world leaders sissy-slap each other in a hair-pulling, titty-twisting pay-per view event.
Blair obviously has no chin, but few Britons do. He doesn't have to worry about getting his teeth knocked out, most of them were on their way out already.
Chirac could wind up dying of BO before he gets any good, solid shots in.
Either way, the only place to stage it would be in a kiddie-pool filled with sheep intestines and bad perfume.
In the end, Maggie Thatcher, disgusted by the sorry display, comes out and ties them together to a flag pole and plays tether-ball with their nutsacks.
How about Tony Blair vs. Jacques Chiracrwbadley
Feb 28, 2003 12:22 PM
Oh gawd that's funny! I really like the tether-ball/nutsack imagery... whatta hoot.

How about Powell/ Hussein. We might win that one...

Maybe we get the first ladies into it? I can just see Ms Laura and Ms Hussein (whoever she may be, Hussein probably has multiple wives). Oil wrestling, oh yeah, Go girls! Settle this one for us! Yeah, bark like a dog...