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New (& first) mission to Pluto - the size of the western US(9 posts)

New (& first) mission to Pluto - the size of the western USPdxMark
Feb 27, 2003 2:39 PM
http://www.msnbc.com/news/877710.asp

The first mission to the Pluto has been approved. The MSNBC article has a graphic showing Pluto juxtaposed over the US -about mathing the size of the continental US west of the Mississippi.

Who knew Pluto was so small??? This makes the debate over Pluto's planet status a bit clearer. So, is Pluto really a planet or is it more like a dormant comet, simply the largest known member of the Kuiper Belt?

As a liberal, I think it would needlessly hurt Pluto's feelings to withdraw it's planet status now. :)

Here is a Nasa link about the debate
http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast17feb99_1.htm
I thought there was something posted by JPL recentlysn69
Feb 28, 2003 6:02 AM
stating that a larger terrestrial body has been discovered well beyond Pluto's orbit, and that the scientific community's general consensus (for the moment at least) was that Pluto is an extremely large chunk of Kuiper debris that has gotten locked into a stable orbit. Dunno.

In any case, I read with interest that Pioneer 10 has officially left the building and is electronically dead but still hurtling off towards Aldeberan. That's cool in the sense that mankind has now fully breached the solar system and sent an object beyond....

Tragically, however, Aldeberan was slicked by the Death Star. Still, it's some cool stuff for us dreamers.
30 amazing years.... I remember the plaque...PdxMark
Feb 28, 2003 6:14 AM
As for Aldeberan...Leia was p*ssed! If looks could kill the saga would have ended then & there...
Fitting tributesn69
Feb 28, 2003 6:17 AM
to Carl Sagan. ...The plaque, not the Death Star....

;-)
Good music, tootorquer
Feb 28, 2003 11:54 AM
Playlist of record (this was before CDs, kids) accompanying plaque:
Bach, Brandenburg Concerto No. 2 in F. First Movement, Munich Bach Orchestra, Karl Richter, conductor. 4:40
Java, court gamelan, "Kinds of Flowers," recorded by Robert Brown. 4:43
Senegal, percussion, recorded by Charles Duvelle. 2:08
Zaire, Pygmy girls' initiation song, recorded by Colin Turnbull. 0:56
Australia, Aborigine songs, "Morning Star" and "Devil Bird," recorded by Sandra LeBrun Holmes. 1:26
Mexico, "El Cascabel," performed by Lorenzo Barcelata and the Mariachi México. 3:14
"Johnny B. Goode," written and performed by Chuck Berry. 2:38
New Guinea, men's house song, recorded by Robert MacLennan. 1:20
Japan, shakuhachi, "Tsuru No Sugomori" ("Crane's Nest,") performed by Goro Yamaguchi. 4:51
Bach, "Gavotte en rondeaux" from the Partita No. 3 in E major for Violin, performed by Arthur Grumiaux. 2:55
Mozart, The Magic Flute, Queen of the Night aria, no. 14. Edda Moser, soprano. Bavarian State Opera, Munich, Wolfgang Sawallisch, conductor. 2:55
Georgian S.S.R., chorus, "Tchakrulo," collected by Radio Moscow. 2:18
Peru, panpipes and drum, collected by Casa de la Cultura, Lima. 0:52
"Melancholy Blues," performed by Louis Armstrong and his Hot Seven. 3:05
Azerbaijan S.S.R., bagpipes, recorded by Radio Moscow. 2:30
Stravinsky, Rite of Spring, Sacrificial Dance, Columbia Symphony Orchestra, Igor Stravinsky, conductor. 4:35
Bach, The Well-Tempered Clavier, Book 2, Prelude and Fugue in C, No.1. Glenn Gould, piano. 4:48
Beethoven, Fifth Symphony, First Movement, the Philharmonia Orchestra, Otto Klemperer, conductor. 7:20
Bulgaria, "Izlel je Delyo Hagdutin," sung by Valya Balkanska. 4:59
Navajo Indians, Night Chant, recorded by Willard Rhodes. 0:57
Holborne, Paueans, Galliards, Almains and Other Short Aeirs, "The Fairie Round," performed by David Munrow and the Early Music Consort of London. 1:17
Solomon Islands, panpipes, collected by the Solomon Islands Broadcasting Service. 1:12
Peru, wedding song, recorded by John Cohen. 0:38
China, ch'in, "Flowing Streams," performed by Kuan P'ing-hu. 7:37
India, raga, "Jaat Kahan Ho," sung by Surshri Kesar Bai Kerkar. 3:30
"Dark Was the Night," written and performed by Blind Willie Johnson. 3:15
Beethoven, String Quartet No. 13 in B flat, Opus 130, Cavatina, performed by Budapest String Quartet. 6:37

Mozart, gamelon, Chuck Berry! What a great way to introduce our civilization.
I suppose today we would have to send out a DVD of "The Bachelor" to represent our highest cultural aspirations.
Today?sn69
Feb 28, 2003 12:10 PM
The Bachelor.
In Synch.
Brittney Spears.
Joe Millionaire.
Limp Bizkit.

...And the little green men would surely mount up in their trusty TIE fighters and fly here to blast us into smithereens before we could do any more harm.....
Website for Golden Recordtorquer
Feb 28, 2003 12:24 PM
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/flash/voyager_record/index_voyager.htm
30 years? Time warp!Continental
Feb 28, 2003 2:33 PM
I had almost a religious belief in Science and Technology in the early 70's. Those thoughts and beliefs are so strongly embedded in my mind that time passage is distorted. Reality has fallen far short of my adolescent expectations for space exploration and technology in general, but they remain our society's greatest achievements.
Perhaps that's lost on the 20-sumthin's.sn69
Feb 28, 2003 5:12 PM
For the rest of us, the space program was always about Gene's Final Frontier. It had names like Mercury, Glenn, Apollo, Skylab, Soyuz, Voyager, Viking, etc. Everything was new and exciting. It's sad that it takes the destruction of a shuttle and the loss of its crew to remind us how incredbile this journey is.

I saw an Apollo/Saturn in person. It was the last of the Skylab missions, and I remember thinking while staring up at that monstrosity on the gantry that nothing made by man could be so silently powerful and elegantly exciting. Decades later I've flown from aircraft carriers but the image of that Saturn still holds the number one spot.

Wow.