|What did Great White sing?||jtolleson|
Feb 23, 2003 5:49 PM
|I'm sorry, that's probably a pretty shallow trivial inquiry in light of the tragedy of it all. Yet my brain keeps coming back to it. I recognize the name as a minor metal band from... the 80s maybe? But I can't place any music.|
|RE: One Hit Wonders...||Bill B|
Feb 23, 2003 5:59 PM
|Their only chart appearance was with a song called "Once Bitten, Twice Shy"|
|And that was a cover||4bykn|
Feb 24, 2003 3:37 AM
|If I remember correctly, the original was done by Mott the Hoople (or maybe Ian Hunter solo).|
|Yeah, they massacred the Ian Hunter (solo) tune. nm||serbski|
Feb 24, 2003 7:28 PM
|"Great Balls of Fire" maybe? (nm)||Spoke Wrench|
Feb 24, 2003 6:23 AM
|Not even close to funny, you jackass. (nm)||RhodyRider|
Feb 24, 2003 6:47 AM
|You're right. I apoligize. (nm)||Spoke Wrench|
Feb 24, 2003 8:24 AM
|Much obliged for that, and sorry for the||RhodyRider|
Feb 24, 2003 9:42 AM
|epithet, but it is (obviously) a very sensitive topic here in Rhode Island. This state isn't like the other 49; we are like one big town here, really, very much a statewide community. It is hard to explain, and unless you live here, it is hard to understand. We all seem to know someone who was there.
For instance, one of my closest friends has a daughter who is involved with a guy who had to dive out a window to escape the blaze, and he was just released from the hospital yesterday with 2nd degree burns on one hand and half his face. He also has a severly lacerated scalp from diving out the window. And just this morning, I found out that one of my closest co-workers brother was killed, and his (the brother's) wife is still in intensive care in a hospital in Boston with 3rd degree burns over the upper half of her body. They have an 18-year old son who woke up Friday and quickly discovered his parents weren't home, and the rest of the story is obvious. My co-worker did not know all day Friday that her bro was even at the club, she didn't find out until after work. Imagine sitting in the office, hearing the latest reports, the body counts, listening to everyone talk about it, and then come to find out at the end of the day that your brother is a victim.
Basically, our little state is devastated and beyond sorrow. So please have a good thought for the victims, survivors, and their families & friends.
|Once Bitten Twice Shy..Babe...||asphalt assault|
Feb 24, 2003 6:39 AM
|Like someone above said, that song was an old Mott The Hoople (r'member all the young dudes?)tune.
I always liked Great White and was really bummed when I heard of the fire. I'm just wondering what the heck they were THINKING using fireworks in a tiny place like that.
Reminds me of some years back when I saw Damn Yankees (with Ted Nugent) at a much larger 3200 seat venue. During his act he shot a flaming arrow at a mockup of a buffalo on stage. Nothing happened as a result but He was arrested after the show for reckless endangerment.
I think Great White should be reamed real good for this one... stupid, stupid, STUPID!
|What's up with the bassist?||Kristin|
Feb 24, 2003 7:09 AM
|They said on the radio that he "is among the missing." But didn't explain. Is he missing as in, "could have been killed in the fire," or missing as in, "on the run"?|
|They assume killed||jtolleson|
Feb 24, 2003 8:01 AM
|I think. He's got some Boulder connection so has been the subject of a few newspaper articles.
PS -- thanks for the "Once Bitten Twice Shy" reminder, people. I DO remember that one.
|Actually it was a guitarist, Ty Logley who was killed||Alpedhuez55|
Feb 24, 2003 8:50 AM
|"Rock Me" was their other hit song. I was never a big fan of theirs. I saw them open for someone once, I think it may have been Twisted Sister. I think both the band and club owners are responsible here.
It is a sad event. The coverage has been very heavy here in Boston. The owners are Jeff & Michael Dedarian. Jeff was a TV reporter in Boston for an NBC affiliate and Providence. He was one of those ones who would be camped out on on your front lawn if you owned the club. His brother, who Great White is saying they spoke with, is avoiding being interviewed by the police.
Jeff Dedarian spoke with the Police briefly at the scene but has only release a print statement and a press conference where he turned on and off the tears, but answered no questions from the media. Apparently they are not being open with the police and have not responded to their questions and request for interviews. Great White has apparently cooperated fully and were allowed to return to California.
A bunch of bands have come forward saying they used pyrotechnics at the club and were never discouraged. As a former musician, I think Club Owners are on par with Lawyers (Except Doug ;-), Politicians & Used Car Salesmen. I am sure when it came time for Great White to collect their portion of the door, the # of people in the club would have been reduced. I think there is plenty of blame to go around on this, but I think the owners are getting treated with Kid Gloves by the media because he is one of their own. Too many people died and it should have been avoided.
Feb 24, 2003 9:42 AM
|of the fire, from what I gathered on CNN this morning, could have been some recently installed sound proofing material on the walls/ceiling that apparently was highly flammable.|
Feb 24, 2003 9:53 AM
|you'd think the installation of a highly flammable material in commercial premises is illegal/negligent (not to mention stupid) regardless of how the firework permission issue turns out|
|It very well may be...||Wayne|
Feb 24, 2003 10:11 AM
|it sounds like that place was a dive.
According to the people on CNN, the neighborhood behind the bar had been complaining about noise so this stuff was installed.
These same people, who had escaped from the fire via a back door said this door opened inward, another safety violation, and that it didn't even have a handle on it, just a hole where the door knob should have been.
|It was a dive, the building was 60 years old and||RhodyRider|
Feb 24, 2003 12:05 PM
|had a long history of being a club or restaurant. Hard rock/metal acts, lots of tribute bands and local bands, and bands like "Great White" that are trying to milk past fleeting fame. Not everyone's type of crowd, but you know, these were just average folks who sure didn't deserve to die.
The place didn't have a sprinkler system because it was "grandfathered" out, and also due to the relative small size I've read. But hell, they should have put a sprinkler system in anyway, regardless! It definitely would have saved lives in this instance.
Going back up a few threads, I agree that there seems to be serious culpability on both the part of the owners and the band & band's management. Time will tell, it is all up to the lawyers now, sadly.
|I'd be shocked if there's more than a couple mil insurance||jtolleson|
Feb 25, 2003 7:46 AM
|available to all the potential plaintiffs. People may say that money doesn't bring anybody back ('tis true) but these kinds of mass losses do create devastating economic hardship on families. Probably created a few orphans, etc.
I'm betting that has been rock bands don't carry much in the way of general liability coverage, and $1 million is a pretty common premises liability policy.
No cause celebre like dying in a hijacked plane, no govt. bailout. Just small families suffering privately.
|agreed - you know what they say about straw men... - nm||MJ|
Feb 25, 2003 8:05 AM