|Germany selling chemical weapons to N. Korea||Captain Morgan|
Feb 19, 2003 11:29 AM
|It seems that Germany has been a major proliferator of weapons, even to rogue regimes. The North Korean ship that last year delivered Scud missiles to Yemen transferred a large shipment of chemical weapons material from Germany to North Korea.
Also, Germany was the main provider of Iraq's military purchases in the 1980s. It was a German engineer who sold them the technology to build and operate the centrifuges necessary for their uranium enrichment program, and German firms provided the technology to make missile parts today.
It irks me to hear France and Germany talk up "peace." They are hypocrites. The nickname "axes of weasel" is appropriate.
|John 8:7 (nm)||czardonic|
Feb 19, 2003 1:37 PM
Feb 19, 2003 2:29 PM
|Are implying that the U.S. supplies chemical and nuclear weapons to rogue nations?
If you are implying that the U.S. has militarily (conventional weapons) supported Iraq in the past, then I can accept that. However, relationships change, for the better (Japan, Afghanistan, Russia) and for the worse (Cuba, Iran, Iraq).
That is totally different than Germany supplying North Korea with chemical weapons, considering everything that is going on in the world.
|Strictly speaking, . . .||czardonic|
Feb 19, 2003 3:20 PM
|. . .no, the U.S. does not supply the means to create chemical and nuclear weapons to "rogue" nations. We supply nations the means to become rogues. Incidentally, the U.S government did rubber-stamp the sale of chemical and biological weapon making materials to Iraq by U.S. companies. You can't claim that the U.S. only provided "conventional" support.
If you are not ready to admit that chemical, biological and nuclear weapon proliferation is wrong under any circumstances (even to those who are your friends because they are the enemies of your enemies) then you are the hypocrite for condmening German proliferation and rationalizing U.S. proliferation (which has brought much more peril to the world).
Feb 20, 2003 5:37 AM
|It is wrong to proliferate under ANY circumstances chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons. The US was part of the nuclear buildup in the past, but that was to deter the Soviet Union, which was building their own large cache. This was a correct and justifiable move by the US during the Cold War BASED ON THE PREVAILING CIRCUMSTANCES AT THE TIME, in my judgement.
In TODAY'S world, it is wrong, PARTICULARLY to North Korea. That is why I think Germany's credibility is zero.
|Sounds like situational ethics to me.||czardonic|
Feb 20, 2003 10:29 AM
|Which is not to say that your views are unethical.
However, it puts you in a weak position to condemn someone else's actions. By your own logic, if Germany doesn't believe that North Korea poses a significant threat, they have every right to sell them whatever they want to.