Jan 31, 2003 7:15 PM
|I ran into an old coworker tonight. The company we worked for had gone out of business about a year or so ago. We chit chatted for a while and I asked him where he was working. He said he was not. My company had a few opennings and I offered to put in a good word for him. He responded that he just got his unempoyment extension and he does not need to look for a job for a few months.
I know some people are having trouble finding a job. It took my brother about 9 months, but he worked over 20 years in the Travel industry and got laid off a month after 9/11. He also took advantage of the training options to get a couple of computer certifications and got a job paying the same money for another travel company.
This guy just is taking over a year off. I could be 30 pounds lighter and probably hold a single digit golf handicap by now!!! Then again, when I got laid off, I had a new job before my last day on the old one. I used part of my severance package to buy my Lemond frame and the rest to pay off most of my debt. I guess I am not crazy about my job but I hate not having one even more.
|You'll never write a perfect set of rules.||Spoke Wrench|
Feb 1, 2003 7:12 AM
|Unfortunately, it looks to me like the people who are frequently unemployed learn how to work the system and how to get around the rules. Meanwhile, people who may be unemployed for the first time in their lives, and who the system was designed to benefit, don't know the right lies to tell and are easily excluded. In other words, the Unemployment Compensation system often benefits the people it is supposed to exclude and excludes the people it is supposed to benefit.
Here in Missouri I sometimes refer to the Employment Security people as the arm of government whose job is to pick on the people who are already down.
|Here in CO you HAVE to be actively searching for a job. . .||js5280|
Feb 1, 2003 9:32 AM
|You must make 3-5 contacts a week and document this activity. You call in every 2 weeks to certify you're doing this before they'll send you a check. Of course you can lie, but there's a chance you could be audited and asked to show your documentation. In defense of your friend, it's a tough economy, I've been out of work for almost 10 months and I've been actively looking. I can't even find a job waiting tables at a decent establishment. My unemployment ran out 2 months ago and I'm not eligible for the new extension. Could I find a job? Probably could, but I can barely keep my head above water so I hold out to find either a decent part time job or good full time job for the time being. I will agree though, that your friend should probably take you up on your offer unless he's genuinely not interested. If it's just to take another few months off, then he's most likely breaking the law or at the very least the intent of the law.|
|Here in CO you HAVE to be actively searching for a job. . .||Alpedhuez55|
Feb 1, 2003 6:13 PM
|I know here in Massachusetts when I was unemployed back in 1989-1990 I had to go the the unemployment office in person every other Thursday to wait in line and pick up my check in person. Now they are doing it by telephone and mail I beleive.
I think he is obviously abusing the system. I think his brother runs a land scaping company and my guess is he works a little under the table as well. He mentioned notingag about not being interested in the job. He immediately bragged about not having to go back to work yet. I would have given him a strong recommendation if he applied. I doubt I would do that if he tries again a few weeks before his unempoyment runs out.
JS, Good luck finding something. I hope the righ comes your way soon!!! I know I am looking a for a new job myself but it is difficult since my empoloyer is a hard ass about giving us time off. I am also strongly considering a relocation but may have to put that on hold until the economy recovers a bit.
|yeah but that would be easy to fake if you want to||ColnagoFE|
Feb 3, 2003 7:36 AM
|takes you a whole 10 minutes per morning if you are really out to screw the system. all you need to do is make the calls. you can just go down the list of stuff in the paper that you know you are not qualified for and document the name of the guy that tells you "no thanks".|
|I've been out of work for almost a year, not by choice||Tig|
Feb 1, 2003 8:12 PM
|I haven't counted the applications and resumes I've sent out since last Feb 28th's layoff, but at 3-6 average per week (if there were more openings, the number would be higher), it had to add up. I hate not working and have tried every connection and method available. I'm glad I was receiving unemployment. The economy in Houston is at an alltime low, and IT workers have been hit the hardest. Some positions have 1200+ applicants. I have no respect for someone who sucks on the government breast without wanting to get off.
My unemployment ran out a few weeks ago, so instead of focusing on getting into my past profession I've been applying at retail stores. The problem is not many are hiring, and they don't take a layed off professional who used to make more than their store manager very seriously. I'll work hard, but even they won't give me the chance. I'm not too proud to work! Maybe I should cut my past wages in half on the applications?! LOL
Luckily, my favorite LBS needs a full time mechanic. I'll start working next week. The pay is better than the average retail job, and the work is MUCH better!!! Don't forget the employee discount either... ;-)
|I've been out of work for almost a year, not by choice||Alpedhuez55|
Feb 2, 2003 5:22 PM
|Retail is tough as far as pay goes. I worked part time during the Holidays at Macy's. They asked me to go full time and in the Management Trainee Program. It would have been a $9K pay cut.
I hope things go well at the LBS. Employee Purchase will be a nice benefit.
|You have my sympathy.||Spoke Wrench|
Feb 3, 2003 8:38 AM
|You ought to try it when you're 60. It's kind of ironic asking for a job from somebody who is so dumb that they actually told me they wouldn't consider me due to my age. Then they had the gaul to tell me that the kind of guys they were hiring didn't do the kind of job they wanted.
I think that I'm better off driving a school bus. I get along with the kids just fine. In fact, I find the discipline issues to actually be an enjoyable part of the job. If we get our contract reaffirmed by the new contractor, I'll be in good shape.
I miss the employee purchase benefits at the LBS and I really miss some of the customers and some of the guys that I worked with. I don't miss working every single Saturday and every single Sunday. My boss (who took every Sunday off) used to say that weekends were just another day in the bike business. I said "Fine. So give me two weekends off out of every seven."