|Shania Twain's Super Bowl Halftime show||Alpedhuez55|
Jan 27, 2003 6:27 AM
|What was the deal with the mouthing her songs. If you are promoting a new record in front of half the country, and close to a billion across the world, you can at least try to sing. I can understand some acts syncing a song or two during a concert as sort of a break. But she was headlining and only had two songs to do. At least make an effort!!!
No Doubt & Sting were both good, though I thought the Duet part of "Message in a Bottle" sounded a bit off though. Gwen's voice was way too low to do a duet with Sting.
As for the commercials, the Office Linebacker & Ozzy Pepsi spots were the best.
Jan 27, 2003 7:06 AM
|The people running the show (ABC? NFL?) don't want any surprises or glitches, so they make the performers lip sync. It makes sense from a technical standpoint, because they have to setup and take down a stage, wire all the mikes, instruments, etc., and lots of stuff can go wrong.
The thing is, I don't think I've ever seen Shania NOT lip sync her forgettable songs. It must be really humiliating to be in the band, playing parts that no one will hear. Reminds me of how the Beatles got really lazy and sloppy during their live shows because no one could actually hear them play.
That feel like a woman song was from her last album, not her new one.
Last year, U2 played live. That was part of their deal for showing up. That was the best halftime show ever.
Jan 27, 2003 7:36 AM
|if Sting was lip syncing that was the best job I've ever seen of it. I'm almost 100% sure both GS and Sting actually sang their songs. But during the ST performance we all thought she was lip syncing and concluded they must have to b/c of the difficulty of setting up stage/sound in a matter of minutes. Of course, we were proven wrong 5 minutes later when NO Doubt starter their performance.|
Jan 27, 2003 7:42 AM
|No Doubt & Sting sang live though. If everyone lip synced it would have been a different story. SHania also got top billing for the halftime act but was the only act to lip sync. I cannot see this helping her sell tickets for her concert tours. As for humiliating the band, anyone who will walk on stage with a Key-tar deserves humiliation ;)
Last year with U2 & the year before with Aerosmith.N.Sync, Brittany & Mary J. Blige were both good. At least they got away from things like Up with People or Marching Bands.
|Whoe. Hold on there. Marching bands!!? How can you not like||128|
Jan 27, 2003 8:01 AM
|marching bands? Ok. To each their own. But! You must see the recent film "Drumline" and be SURE to watch Grambling State at halftime. I watch them just for the halftime show!! It's superb musical competition. But I'm an addict so...Turn the beat around. Love to hear percussion. :)|
|Whoe. Hold on there. Marching bands!!? How can you not like||Alpedhuez55|
Jan 27, 2003 8:13 AM
|I agree the Grambling Marching band would be interesting and better than most of the half time shows they have had. Sorry I did not mean to dis Marching Bands. But I was referring more towards the lame shows back in the 70s & Early 80s. I think they would just pick a marching band from a college near the location of the game. Marching Bands have come a long way since then. The Superbowl has become an even bigger event. I think it will be used to promote already popular artists in the future.
I used to know a guy who used to jokingly talk about playing with Fleetwood Mac at parties & Bars. He was in the USC Marching Band that played on "Tusk" ;) It was his pick up line.
|Funny story. I remember them doing that song thinking:||128|
Jan 27, 2003 8:37 AM
|That's just not a good marching band song. And yeah, the old halftime, b-list bands were pretty lame. Maybe as the Super bowl becomes more of an international event, halftime will include mid-east peace talks, re-writing of the tax code and include excerpts from the Protestant Reformation. Now THAT would be a great halftime!|
|Shania is only there to look at, anyway nm||DougSloan|
Jan 27, 2003 7:51 AM
|Amen! Who really listens to her anyway?!||look271|
Jan 27, 2003 9:06 AM
|If you want good music, you don't listen to Shania (or most stuff you hear on pop/country radio). Just got Kathleen Edwards "Failer". Now that is good stuff!|
|"Can I write a check?" "Yo"=my fave cmrcl. As for the music||128|
Jan 27, 2003 7:56 AM
|flat-dead-bad. Sha-thigha- looks great, but she needs an act. Can't believe I liked her, she lost the country edge. Now she's all Pepsi and what: one song? Do you really FEEL like a woman? NO WAY! Is that your "perogative" to have fun?? Huh? Bon Jovi needs a new song too. Every place he goes he's pushing that same 'self discovery' 'I'm older and more reflective now' softness. Looks great though (imagine that). And could he pleeease let Sambora rip once in a while. Not that the camera would actually show a musician for more than 2.5 seconds these days, but we can imagine...
Who was that twerp with Stung? Is she in a punk band somewhere? Is she popular? Really. I'm out of it. I wanted her to be good so bad, but she wasn't: geuss we know where Mike Tyson's real voive ended up (could have just been tired though). She and Sting, why message in a bottle?? Wha? were off.
Caught Santana et al. Cannot beat that precussion. The main drummer was a big, bad, animal. Loved it.
Bonnie Raitt: fabulous as ever. But as predicted, the minute she starts her trademark slide solo...heeer comes the voice overs to commercial...thanks again. Raitt has one of those voices: it is just getting better and better. Amazing. I think she could sing the tax code and make it sound heavenly and hip.
Agreed: u2 last year was chill inspiring. They corralled a moment there. Instant live classic.. Just like the game of the same year.
I howled at the "yo" commercial. Great editing.
Jan 27, 2003 8:37 AM
|Didn't Sambora look fat? Maybe it was just the camera. As for Bon Jovi's "'self discovery' 'I'm older and more reflective now' softness," at least they came out and made some noise. When I first heard Sting was doing halftime, I almost fell asleep, because he has gone the same way. Remember when he was an angry young man, making great music? Then he got into therapy/tantric/yoga/whatever and went new age. It's nice that he's happy with his life now, but I sure miss the old days when he wasn't and it came out in his music. Thankfully, he dusted off a great song from the old days instead of his latest elevator music.
Didn't see any of the pregame acts as I was out riding! I did see the Dixie Chicks do the anthem. I can listen to the Dixie Chicks all day. Those Chicks can play, too. I would rather have seen them instead of Shania any day of the week.
|Dixie Chicks kick as (sic). Good job with the Anthem but||128|
Jan 27, 2003 8:53 AM
|interestingly they resolved it on some note very much not the note the Anthem is usually finished on. Notice that? It was a bit lower maybe, or flatted?? I was unsure how I felt obout it: I guess I was thinking Hey, thats not how it traditionally ends! But figured I was being too ridgid. I like that performers gently mess with that great, powerful piece. Their harmonies were so rich, and I thought it had an appealling somber tone finninshing on (what sounded like) a flatted intead of major note. Any "real" musicians here?
Glad to hear you rode. I rode at 8:30 am, my first ever Winter ride, and it was really, really cold....
|I have no idea what you are talking about.||look271|
Jan 27, 2003 9:12 AM
|Having come from a fairly musical background, and abhoring anything that is not in tune, those girls nailed it. It was refreshing to hear harmony and voices that know that less is often times more, instead of the hystrionis (sp?) of Celine Dion's "God bless America".Someone should just shoot her and put her out of her pain.....|
Jan 27, 2003 9:15 AM
|I noticed that too, but the final note was the correct note. It was the notes directly preceding the last note that they did a variation on. I'm not sure what the three-part chord was, but it wasn't flatted. Diminished, possibly. Beautiful stuff.
I caught part of Celine Dion doing God Bless America, and I know it's not hip, but I think she has a great voice. It was working yesterday, although I've always thought that you could put a gospel choir behind just about anyone and they would sound good. I wish she would choose better songs to sing, because her music has always put me to sleep. Plus, it doesn't fly when she tries to do the "soul" thing. I think she singlehandedly dragged Tina Turner out of retirement years ago when she did a cover of "River Deep Mountain High."
Rode Saturday and Sunday, because this is California! It was 70 degrees for much of my Saturday ride. Sunday was windy, so it was a little cooler. Shorts and short sleeves in January can't be beat!
|Celine Dion. When she finished all I could think was: Perfect||128|
Jan 27, 2003 9:34 AM
|She was working, agreed. And agree with her 'handling' and song selection. She has a voice equal to the best opera or pop talents. She's blessed.
I thought she did a great job with "All by myself" Maybe she needs to do more covers or something. I like her, never ever been shy about it. She has so much talent and uses it mostly, but I wish she'd sing more complicatesd arrangements and good 'songs' as in poignebt, not just Desmosnd Child fluff. Unlike Maria Carey who has ability (range, power, looks etc) but just doesn't seem talented in that ability...
And thanks for the 'not flatted' thought, diminished sounds more right. It was definately something and I think it was the Chick on the left taking that part of the triad. It was really an awesome move.
Speaking of Cal, as you so devilishly refer, where are you located? I'm heading to So. Cal. in about 3 weeks....(Yorba Linda: behind the Orange Curtain)
Jan 27, 2003 9:52 AM
|I was once messing around on my guitar and by accident, came up with a really strange chord. The keyboard player looked over and asked what it was. I had no idea, but told him the notes. He declared it a "minor second," which I had never heard of, and haven't heard of since. Maybe that's what they sang!
I'm just a bit north of Yorba Linda, better known as the home of Richard Nixon. About 400 miles north. You should have even better weather down there than here. It has been running in the high 70s lately, 80s a bit further south in San Deigo.
|After In&Out Nixon Library was my next stop in YBon my 1st visit||128|
Jan 27, 2003 10:06 AM
|Much to the chargrin/consternation of many of my more politically ensconced friends, I have a lot of respect for Richard Nixon. Too young to remember his presidency well, but that man was one, bright hard working son of a....Once found a book on him in the law library. I was amazed at this life story. Now In & Out Burger on the other hand...
Minor second. That's funny. I wonder if that's the same chord Steve Martin plays on his bajo where you actually have to use your nose to form part of the chord. Did you use your nose at all? It could be a comedy chord?
|You really don't know GS?||53T|
Jan 27, 2003 11:26 AM
|Wow, you must be like, my age.
I really liked her taking the low part and Sting taking the girl, I mean, high part of the duet.
As far as her not being good, everyones a critic. Have you tried singing with Sting in front of 100,000 people?
|Geez.What was I thinkin?GS is great.Her best show EVER||128|
Jan 27, 2003 12:10 PM
|I think her voice was just a bit tired that day...Don't think that's critical in a bad way. An easy fact. Is that how she always sounds?
GS is a guitar as far as I know. Is GS the little girl with the low voice? Does she have a band? I saw a drummer with goggles? IS that her band behind Sting? Or did they come with Sting? Seriously. I try to listen to pop radio these days but I can't take it, get home and put on the Scorpions. "The Zoo". What's GS's song, I'll listen to it....
Jan 27, 2003 12:58 PM
|She is the "frontman" for No Doubt, which is a ska-based band, and yes, they backed up Sting. Gwen loves to show off her rock hard body with bare midriffs and she changes hair colors frequently. When dressed up, she can be quite gorgeous.
No Doubt is a band from Anaheim (not far from Yorba Linda), so in a sense, they were the "local" band, especially given that Shania is Canadian and Sting is English. I have no idea why the drummer was wearing what looked like a dive mask. Maybe he just got back from diving the submarine trench off La Jolla. (You can tell who the tourists are asking them to pronounce La Jolla.)
|La Hoy-ya. Try: Leominster. Thanks for the info. Oh yeah, the||128|
Jan 27, 2003 1:19 PM
|dropped suspenders, should've picked up the ska there. I was too distracted by the Addidas wrestling shoes. I couldn't devine their reference. Soft DM (doc marten cue? Combat boot lite? I was stumped) I used to go to Bim Skala-Bim shows in Boston when ska was big in the eighties. Cool gig for Doubt, no doubt....Love the ska style but Mighty Bosstones are cliche and I miss the political message...I'll go read Doubts lyrics.
Before I knew the ski goggles were a totally stoked fashion statement, I seriosly asked this kid if he skied over. He just looked at me funny...Cool.
|lem in str||53T|
Jan 27, 2003 4:01 PM
|The chair straightened you out, you're much hipper now, don't ya feel it? Gwen's best pop sucess is a song she did with Moby (oh no, you've heard of Moby right? He's old like us) It's called "Southside" go get it on Kazaa or something like that, you've probably heard it and not realized it, as it got lots of airtime.
Now would the real Slim Shady please stand up.
How abouth Athol? Ware?
|Athl, Waya. So hip I can't fit into my square peg anymore.||128|
Jan 28, 2003 5:17 AM
|Have seen/heard Moby. And I do like that (f)Eminim kid.
Heres one for the West coasters: Rehoboth.
|How 'bout we head a bit south: try Quonochontaug. (nm)||RhodyRider|
Jan 28, 2003 8:07 AM
|Kin oc a tawg ....? (nm)||128|
Jan 28, 2003 11:35 AM
|Close...we say, "kwan-eh-kintawg" emphasis 1st syl. Or,||RhodyRider|
Jan 29, 2003 6:40 AM
|simply "kwannie" if you are a local. Love those Native American words! Weekapaug. Winnipaug. Apponaug. And of course, Woonsocket.|
Jan 27, 2003 4:16 PM
|Bim Skala-Bim were a lot of fun in the 80's. A freind of mine breifly played guitar for them. And if your a Bosstones Fan, you should go to Paramount Bicycle Repair in Somerville. The owner, Tyler, used to play horns for them. He is a pretty good wheel builder as well.
Jan 27, 2003 6:49 PM
|If you're talkin' the Boston scene, you'd be remiss to leave out the Lemonheads and Throwing Muses. Hell, speaking of the latter, anyone who listens to the spirits has GOT to be a cool musician.
WFNX is one of the last greats on internet radio.
Jan 27, 2003 7:33 PM
|FNX is a great station, the heart of Boston Radio is WERS, Emerson College's radio station. A lot of the djs start out there. Most of the College stations are very good here. WERS always stands out among them though.
Mission of Burma were one of the best bands to come out of Boston. Unfortunately, they broke up before they could reach their full potential. They have done some reunions, but it would have been nice to see what they could have done if they continued. I think they could have been up there with bands like REM if they played on through the 80s. Moby covered one of their song's "Revolver" for one of his first hits.
|Morphine. . .||js5280|
Jan 27, 2003 8:43 PM
|One of my all time favorite Boston bands. Unfortuantely I never got to see them when Mark Sandman was still alive. I'm going to see the new incarnation, Twinemen, tomorrow night. I'm psyched except I'll be a little late due to class.|
|'zbc, 'ild (timetunnel, sat am 1090.), 'ers, how 'bout 'COZ!!??||128|
Jan 28, 2003 5:31 AM
|"Pure rock and roll for Boston" Remember that!
and the Brakfeast of Champions.
Oh, sh*t you guys said a mouthful there. Burma was great. Many a band owe a debt to those guys. I was doing open mics when Susn Tucci (sp) was just breaking. That was cool. Glad she's getting play.
Here's few I really liked:
Wellbabies (Beserkley jazz boys adorn pink tu-tus and diapers and go haywire)
Aerosmith (this little band with a big sound. Havn't heard from them since '87)
Who was it that played with Bim all thi time; Dogzilla? Some other Ska band.
Saw Morphine a bit, but held a grudge b/c my s/o at the time liked/ was courted by the guy who died so suddenly.
and of course Jazz brunch at the 1369
Boston did indeed rock. Last I tuned in, say 96, 97, radio sucked and the clubs were dissolving. "The new rock on the block" tries hard. Glad they're there.
"Love that dirty water."
Jan 27, 2003 6:47 PM
|Gwen continues to be yummie, in spite of her nuptules to Gavin.
Yup, she's a fixture in the Orange County music scene, although one would be remiss to leave out San Diego, Los Angeles and Santa Barbara Counties (Zebrahead, Dave Wakeling [Lymie transplant], Common Sense, Papa Roach, Incubus, Sprung Monkey, Buck O' Nine, Reel Big Fish, Dance Hall Crashers, Rugburns, Rollins Band, Toad the Wet Sprocket, Dishwalla...among others).
As for No Doubt's drummer, at least he was clothed for a change....
|One more thing: lack of sexualization of the male body||128|
Jan 27, 2003 8:29 AM
|Does "the evil liberal media" only sexualize, and exploit for money, the sexualized female form? Where is the feminist frenzy and the conservative howl and the pc police at this total vulgar, profiteering from the female body? Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for sex; vote for it every chance I get, and I love the form and aesthetic of both women and ....other women (ok, ok, yeah I appreciate the male form too: in a "David" kind of way. k?)
But it is the pained expressions, the sexual body contortions (I'm thinking of the "Yoga" commercial then bookended with the ad. for "Are you HOT"- including men, and the recent wreslting women ad, all of which I found innapropriate and I'm sure offensive to many others.) Are we afraid to show what aroused men look like.....(The evil, turgid penis. Banned. Yeah, just what we need: more hardons in the media)
A rant I know. But what with the Republicans lying about the benefits of this 'stimulus package'(!) SUV commercials lying about what an SUV does, the sheer audacity of sexual exploitation of human bodies and emotions under the guise and lie of 'reality' tv and profit, AND the talk of war for no immediately obvious reason, makes me just want to turn off the tv and go out side and play! How crazy is that...
|sexualization of the male body||Alpedhuez55|
Jan 27, 2003 9:09 AM
|Well, there were the Diet Coke adds with the women looking at the construction worker. And don't forget the UPS ad where women go gaga over they men in Brown Shorts. Though one of the funniest recent ads was the one where Enriqe Inglesias sings to the guy holding bag of Doritos. And last but not least, the Nike Streaker at a Soccer game ad. That one cracks me up every time!!!
|We should all be glad Terry Tate doesn't work in our office. . .||js5280|
Jan 27, 2003 11:39 AM
|I can see it now. . .
"SURF ON YOUR OWN TIME PEDAL BOY!!!!" :-D
For those that missed the best part of the Super Bowl, here's a link. About mid-page you can see a listing of all the commerials and watch them. Highly recommend the Reebok "Pain Train" featuring Terry Tate. The Ming Yao and Catapult Monkeys were also my top picks.
Worst commerical goes to the Partnership for a Drug Free America who insinuates that people who buy drugs are responsbile for drug shootings. Hmmm, Kendal Jackson isn't out bust'n a cap in Ernest and Julio Gallo's ass because I like to buy wine. Let's point the blame where it belongs, government prohibition. This creates the black market where lawlessness abounds. Typical bull$hit propoganda to fund those addicted to the money we waste on the failed war on drugs. A very close second was the Dodge Ram heimlich commerical, just plain disgusting.
Other observations. . .
Piggish male content follows, read at own risk. . .Surpsingly no midriff exposure on Shania but them are some nice jubblies, just make sure the mute button works on the remote. It's hard to compete with Gwen Stefani's rock hard body though. I was disappointed by her performance, she's normally got great energy and I remember her voice being much better, it sounded a little tired. When did Victoria Secret get it's own regularly programmed TV show, Alias? Does the main character run around in nothing but lingerie?
I vote John Madden for the Bill Patrick "Just shut the #uck up" award. Christ that guy is annoying. No wonder I only watch at most one professional football game a year. By the end of the quarter I muted the TV commentary and turned on the radio during the game.
Finally congrats to the Bucs. I like to route for the underdog. However, Raiders fan tend to be extremely obnoxious, which is only excerbated here in Denver because of the huge rivialry so keeping them (both Raiders and Broncoholics) at bay for another year was an added plus.
|D'oh! Forgot the link. . .||js5280|
Jan 27, 2003 11:46 AM
|caught that irony: anti-drug propoganda here, alcohol joy there||128|
Jan 27, 2003 11:55 AM
|That was a nice, intellectual touch.|| |