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Alan KeyesColnagoFE
Jan 8, 2003 9:01 AM
I think he has some interesting ideas. Anyone think he'd make a good presidential candidate after Bush is out?
I once saw a televised debate with him...Wayne
Jan 8, 2003 9:25 AM
and Alan Dershowitz (?) on Christianity vs. Atheism. Very interesting, he certainly knows the politicians tactic of not answering questions straight. Dershowitz killed him, eventually backing him into a corner, and more or less getting him to admit that if he were president he would only appoint Christians to government positions or judgeships because only Christians can be good trustworthy people. In short, the guy will scare off everyone but the religious right which isn't good if you want to be president. Hasn't he already run anyway?
Yeah not saying I'd vote for himColnagoFE
Jan 8, 2003 10:33 AM
Think he's anti-choice as well. Think that he's thought through the issues better than someone like Buchanan though. I have only heard him on a few talk shows and he seems to be able to think on his feet pretty well.
I wouldMatno
Jan 8, 2003 11:38 AM
Personally, I think he's the first "non-politician" I've seen run for office in a LONG time, and by far the best candidate I've EVER seen. By "non-politician" I mean someone who stands stronger on the issues than on what will get him elected. For that very reason, he will never get elected - at least not as President of the country. He is a very good man though, and I think he's better at thinking on his feet than any other candidate I've ever seen. He certainly doesn't sidestep any issues the way others do, and his answers are never canned, pre-memorized answers (Al Gore was the king of those).

He's definitely anti-abortion, being a staunch Catholic. In fact, that may be the only issue that I've seen on which I don't totally agree with him. I am pro-choice insofar as I think that people should be allowed to choose whether to have an abortion in cases where they did not choose to have sex in the first place (e.g. rape or incest). That option does not extend to those who voluntarily choose to take the risk of getting pregnant (whether they wanted to get pregnant or not is a non-issue at that point, in my opinion).

His reasoning behind most of what he says is incredibly sound though - not just emotional "this is what I think, therefore all others are stupid" like many "conservatives" such as Pat Buchanan or Rush Limbaugh.
I agree with you he is very articulate...Wayne
Jan 8, 2003 12:31 PM
and well thought out. But Dershowitz backed him into a corner basically showing that he was a hypocrite. Lots of Keye's arguments showed him to be a strong constitutionalist, the constitution specifically bans any sort of religious requirement to serve the government, and then Keys admitted that he would have a Litmus test for any of his appointees, namely requiring them to be Christians. I guess you have to admire a bigot that sticks by his principles!
I agree with you he is very articulate.Matno
Jan 8, 2003 1:05 PM
It's not his oratory skills that won me over though. It's his logic. "Bigot" is a pretty strong word for someone who would appoint people who feel the same way he does on major issues. You'd be hard pressed to find anybody who agrees with him politically who is not Christian. There are very few (if any) atheist conservatives. From what I know of him (which is somewhat limited, though I have shaken his hand) I don't think he would hesitate to appoint members of other religions who agree with his politics. Any politician who would appoint any officers who disagree with his own politics is a fool or a fencesitter. (Oh, hey! That means GW is probably a fool. I KNEW it!)
Very intelligent, well-spoken, butBrooks
Jan 8, 2003 11:19 AM
way, WAY too conservative for me (I'm middle of the spectrum Independent). Yes, he ran once before and didn't make it out of Iowa/New Hampshire for the Republicans. The elephants could do a lot better than Keyes to hold the White House.
re: Alan KeyesAlpedhuez55
Jan 8, 2003 12:24 PM
He is a bright man. I think he did well in the debates. I would consider him for a cabinet position over president though. I like Steve Forbes a lot as well. They both have a lot of great ideas, but have not put those ideas to practice.

The problem is he has no track record. Who would you want hire to run your business, someone who teaches business for 30 years with no experience in real business or someone who who has a track record of running a business.

Mike Y.
re: Alan KeyesMatno
Jan 8, 2003 1:10 PM
No track record is a big strike against him. Too bad because I don't think it necessarily should disqualify him, but that's the way things work. Maybe he should try to get a cabinet post first, then claim some experience. He does have experience as an international diplomat, but it's not enough. Also don't discount the fact that the media can't stand a conservative black. Don't ask me why, but they seem to get snubbed more than anyone else. Even when Keyes was a candidate in the last presidential election, participating in the debates, and campaigning across the country, he was almost completely ignored in the media. Kind of sad that our media is so unbalanced. (There's no such thing as "neutral press" but you can at least have both sides. We don't).

Steve Forbes most attractive selling point (IMO) was his income tax plan (flat tax). Certainly more fair than our current system and oh so much cheaper to administer!
I think he would make a <i>great</i> GOP Candidtate }: ] (nm)czardonic
Jan 8, 2003 12:51 PM
He'd be my first choice in the GOP, too...cory
Jan 8, 2003 1:34 PM
Because then the Dems could run ANYBODY and win. I wish there were 50 of him, all interested in the Senate.
Jan 8, 2003 3:26 PM
Al Sharpton can be the next Democrat candidate for President. I wish there were 50 Democrats like him, all running for the Senate. Woops! Maybe there are.