|God.... man or woman? Place your vote...||Funston|
Dec 19, 2002 11:19 AM
|While stopped behind a mini-van at a traffic light, I gazed at its license plate frame which read, "God is Coming... and She's Real Pissed".
The chuckle I got out of it was due in part to the reference of God as a She. I thought he was a He, but could he be a She?
Anybody care to help with the answer?
|lol -- mortals||Kristin|
Dec 19, 2002 11:24 AM
|Don't you know me by now?|
|or myth.......NM (Just we give equal time to the athiests)||eyebob|
Dec 19, 2002 11:43 AM
|may as well ask if a bike is man or woman||DougSloan|
Dec 19, 2002 11:48 AM
|God is not human, pretty much by definition. Therefore, the question is meaningless.
The Bible refereneces God repeatedly as "Father" and with male gender pronouns. Barring evidence to the contrary, I'd have to go with that.
My belief, though, is neither -- or both. It doesn't matter, anyway.
Then again, I could be wrong.
|Those gender terms are in hot debate right now.||Kristin|
Dec 19, 2002 2:41 PM
|Just wait til the revised NIV finds its way to bookshelves--then watch theological heads explode. Do you think anyone will be struck by lightening? lol.|
|I doubt God cares||DougSloan|
Dec 19, 2002 4:35 PM
|I doubt whether God cares whether we use masculine, feminine, or neutral pronouns in reference to Him/Her/It. If it were possible, He'd probably explain the truth to us in some language we could never understand, and is gender neutral or doesn't even consider the issue.
He might get concerned if our primary focus when thinking about Him and the Bible is this issue, though.
|Pssst...Personally, I agree with you||Kristin|
Dec 19, 2002 5:11 PM
|But don't tell the others that. It might start a fight. :)|
Dec 19, 2002 12:00 PM
|Why? 'cause Chivas Regal says so:
|If God wouldn't have such lousy customer service...||Bruno S|
Dec 19, 2002 1:15 PM
|you could ask him/her.|
|You can ask,||DougSloan|
Dec 19, 2002 1:29 PM
|you just may not get your answer for a while (and I wouldn't be in any hurry!).|
|Ask the pope (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Dec 19, 2002 1:20 PM
|But scholars believe Jesus was a woman||RoyGBiv|
Dec 19, 2002 1:29 PM
|She had to feed hundreds on short notice and with little supplies.
She had to deal with 12 guys who just didn't get it.
She had to rise from the dead because there was more work to do.
|Impossible to know!!!||Breakfast|
Dec 19, 2002 10:27 PM
|Silly humans...everything revolves around them, doesn't it?
The Divine doesn't have to be anything, it just is. The reality of what we cannot know must not be imagined to be what we want it to be.
But that's just my guess. I can never know.
|Some say that God was made in the image of man! ;-)||Tig|
Dec 21, 2002 8:25 PM
|So, who made who?
Mother Nature gets the female gender portion at least.
Also, isn't God quite a bit like Santa Clause... he watches everything you do/when you've been bad or good, etc...
All said in good fun, but to instigate some thinking.
Dec 19, 2002 10:54 PM
|I'm just not sure yet which way he or she went.|
|Ask Dumb Questions and You Get Dumb Answers...||Jon Billheimer|
Dec 20, 2002 7:54 AM
|...or none at all:)-|
|So how about heaven and hell?||Spoke Wrench|
Dec 20, 2002 10:33 AM
|Some time ago I drempt that I had died. In my dream, judgement was a long hall with many rooms off to the sides. In some rooms, people were having orgies of riotous living. I selected the room in which I saw my grandparents. It didn't look too exciting, but it was very serene. The catch is that whatever room you selected, you had to remain in for eternity.
Prior to that dream, my image of God wasn't very good. I pictured God as an avenger who watched over me constantly just waiting for the day when I screwed up so that He could send me to hell for all eternity. Spending eternity in heaven with God didn't sound much better to me.
Ever since I had the dream, I no longer fear death.
Dec 20, 2002 11:26 AM
|That sounds like a nice vision of heaven.
I think the room with the orgies was for the Muslims... (just kidding people -- the reference is to the passages cited by the terrorists supporters to the effect that you'll have 100 virgins in heaven -- something like that).
|re: God.... woman?||4bykn|
Dec 20, 2002 3:21 PM
|Definitely female. I saw her in a movie and she looked just like Alanis Morrisette (sp?).|
|what about George Burns? nm||DougSloan|
Dec 20, 2002 3:34 PM
|or Graham Chapman?||mickey-mac|
Dec 20, 2002 5:13 PM
|At least his voice. (RIP)|
|limits of language||Duane Gran|
Dec 23, 2002 6:25 AM
|Language expresses a way of thought. English (and many languages) refer to the third person by gender. Other languages assign gender to inanimate objects. Some languages have no future or past tense. This radically affects one's outlook on life.
I believe language is insufficient to describe some things, like God, because they get shoehorned into a limited space. Is god a man or woman? If I had spoke the language of heaven I might have the answer, but I suspect that God's real nature is akin to "none of the above."
|I think you're right||DougSloan|
Dec 23, 2002 6:58 AM
|Actually, I wrote a paper on that in college (philosophy/English/linguistics stuff). We have no ideas beyond our language abilities. For example, until you understand the language of physics and mathematics, try to comprehend quantum mechanics or string theory. Then extrapolate that difficulty about a million times.
|some thoughts||Woof the dog|
Dec 23, 2002 11:50 PM
|It all depends on what culture we are talking about. I don't think anybody who seriously studied religions thinks that God is this and that. It is one thing - incomprehensible, impossible to know until you are dead. However, in order to bring at least some understanding of God to the level of us mere mortals, every religion uses analogies borrowed from material world. In particular, the concepts of a father and a mother. The nature of a man and a woman, i.e. their physical and emotional potentials,etc. Some religions view God as a masculine figure. In christianity, I'd say, God is a powerful figure like that of a man in a patriarchal society, and a soul is feminine in nature just like a woman tends to be more emotional. Life and sex itself can be viewed as this very complex matrix of a religious experience where god penetrates your soul, literally, and the result is the creation of something of higher, innocent nature. In other religions, there is no concept of god, but rather an immense force that is everything, and therefore is both - light and dark, Yin and Yang... male and female. I think Siva and his bloodthirsty wife Kamunda are worshiped as parts of the same source. I am sure there are societies that are small and place importance on female powers (powers of creation and healing versus those of death and hunting).
Woof the dog.