|Punk Rock Profits . . .||mickey-mac|
Dec 18, 2002 10:16 PM
|or cash for chaos. An article recently ran in the Orange County Weekly about influential late 70s, early 80s OC punk rock band the Middle Class. The article mentioned that Middle Class's 45 "Out of Vogue" sold on ebay for $130. The next day a good friend of mine put some old school punk 45s up on ebay. Out of Vogue is up to $100 already. Tower 18 by the Chiefs is up to $185. Blood Stains by Agent Orange is at $45. This got me thinking and I paid a long overdue visit to my old box of LPs and 45s in the garage last night. In addition to Middle Class, Agent Orange, and the Chiefs, I found some old 45s by the Dils, the Urinals, Black Flas, Minutemen, and Discharge among others. I'm guessing that the 10 most valuable 45s in my collection will go for $600 to $700. I don't even own a turntable any more and haven't listened to these records since the mid-80s. So, should I join my buddy and cash in on the current craze for old school punk rock 45s or hold onto them for old time's sake? I've already got an agreement with my wife that any proceeds from the sale would go to something completely frivolous: e.g., an old Raleigh three-speed with Sturmey-Archer hubs, a case of Dogfish Head Worldwide Stout, and/or a portable stereo for my office.|
|Trash To Cash... It's A Good Thing... NM. . .||Bill B|
Dec 19, 2002 2:48 AM
|don't do it!||gtx|
Dec 19, 2002 8:01 AM
|I have a huge collection of this stuff. I still listen to a lot of it from time to time--I kind of go in cycles. Get a turntable. In terms of profit, I think the stuff will be even more valuable when our generation gets into our 40s and 50s.|
|I agree with gtx in principle; you may want to hear these||RhodyRider|
Dec 19, 2002 9:16 AM
|again at some point. My suggestion is, if you are motivated enough, find a pal with a decent turntable and then "rip" (or whatever it is called) these 45s into digits and burn them onto a cd. Then, SELL THOSE BABIES AND REAP THE PROFITS! Thank you kindly, A&M, for giving us the boot...|
|That's my plan||Pescador|
Dec 20, 2002 12:06 PM
|I'm going to wait until my friend's auctions are over and put them up on ebay. First I'm going to take them next door and have my neighbor help me put them onto CD. To see what my buddy's 45s are doing: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=deluxewarrior&completed=0&sort=3&since=-1&include=0&page=1&rows=25|
Dec 20, 2002 1:37 PM
|I'd like to ask you a question. Please e-mail me at email@example.com|
Dec 20, 2002 9:45 AM
|I've got a huge collection too. I never thought of digitizing them. I'd certainly have to get some hardware and software to do it.|
|JO STRUMMER IS DEAD||MJ|
Dec 23, 2002 6:32 AM
Punk legend Joe Strummer dies
Monday December 23, 2002
Punk pioneer Joe Strummer, a musical and political inspiration for a generation, has died aged 50.
The former Clash frontman died of a suspected heart attack yesterday at his home in Somerset.
U2 singer Bono called the Clash "the greatest rock band" and said they "wrote the rule book" for later acts.
Billy Bragg said Strummer was the driving force who helped give punk its "political edge".
Writer Jon Savage said: "In 1977, the Clash did one of the best live shows I've ever seen. Joe Strummer in particular gave it his all - and thereby inspired a whole generation."
Born in Ankara, Turkey and the son of a diplomat, Strummer, whose real name was Mellor, was middle class and public school educated but became a hugely admired figure as the musical voice of rebellion.
The Clash scored 16 top 40 hits including Rock the Casbah, Bankrobber and I Fought the Law. Should I Stay or Should I Go? reached number one after the group split up when it was used in a Levi's ad.
The group's third album London Calling was named the greatest album of the 80s by Rolling Stone magazine - even though it was released in 1979.
The news of Strummer's.death was announced to the world today on his official website. A message dated December 23 on strummersite.com reads: "Joe Strummer died yesterday. Our condolences to Luce and the kids, family and friends."
A statement issued by his publicist said Strummer "died peacefully at his home in Somerset". It added that the musician's wife Lucy, two daughters and stepdaughter "request privacy at this harrowing time".
Strummer -singer, guitarist and songwriter - was the creative force behind the Clash, along with Mick Jones.
Strummer and Jones began writing two-minute, three-chord punk anthems such as White Riot, but eventually diversified into reggae, funk, blues and rap. In many ways they were at the forefront of world music.
The pair had a strained relationship and Strummer - famed at the time for his mohican haircut - ousted him from the line-up in 1983. The band limped on with new members but called it a day in the mid-80s. They always resisted lucrative offers to reform, unlike their contemporaries the Sex Pistols.
Today Bob Geldof - a musical contemporary as frontman for the Boomtown Rats - today said he admired their refusal to sell out. "I know for a fact they were offered huge amounts of money," he told the BBC. "They just said no, that isn't really what we stood for. That's truly admirable."
He added: "They were very important musically but as a person, he was a very nice man."
Bragg said his political imagination had been fired by Strummer, after seeing the Clash at a famed Rock Against Racism show in east London's Victoria Park.
"I have a great admiration for the man," he said. "His most recent records are as political and edgy as anything he did with the Clash. His take on multicultural Britain in the 21st century is far ahead of anybody else," he told the BBC. "Without Joe, there's no political Clash and without the Clash the whole political edge of punk would have been severely dulled."
Bono planned to work with Strummer next month on a Nelson Mandela tribute track for an Aids fundraiser show in South Africa. He said today: "The Clash was the greatest rock band. They wrote the rule book for U2. It's such a shock."
Strummer made a number of film appearances, including Jim Jarmusch's Mystery Train and Alex Cox's Straight To Hell. The Clash also made a cameo in Martin Scorsese's The King Of Comedy and starred in their own film, Rude Boy.
He had a brief stint as singer with the Pogues in the early Nineties and by the end of the decade had formed a new band, the Mescaleros. He had long resisted lucrative offers to reform the Clash