|Vannilla Coke||Bill B|
Dec 15, 2002 6:22 PM
|Is anybody else addicted to this stuff? I think the goverment is behind it, once we're all addicted they're going to put mind altering drugs in it and we'll all vote republican.|
|re: Vannilla Coke||Woof the dog|
Dec 15, 2002 7:54 PM
|nahhhh, if you buy it in a 2 liter bottle and drink out of it as often as you want, you'd stop being addicted. The stuff just doesn't taste good when half-flat.
I think i am going to cry
Woof the dog.
|re: Vannilla Coke||Bruno S|
Dec 15, 2002 8:28 PM
|Try real cocaine. Then you will know what a real addiction is.|
|language rant (not relevant)||tao|
Dec 15, 2002 9:45 PM
|Actually Cocaine isn't addictive in the traditional pharmacological sense of the word, only opiates, alcohol, and barbiturates are. But I'll grant you that the word has taken on a whole new meaning, and you're now probably more right than I am: it now means something like "uncontrollable, compulsive use, even in the face of negative health and social consequences." Which is why Venus Williams argued she wasn't responsible for on-line purchases, she was addicted to shopping. Although it's hard for me to believe that she didn't have enough money left over for proper nutrition and medical care!
I still use the term cracker to describe computer criminals while (nearly) everyone else uses hacker because it sounds better, even though it means someone adept at software and systems internals. I just hate to give in to evolving language when I feel the change isn't adding any clarity, and in fact may be obscuring the intended meaning. By the way, this is why the Seven Dwarves could go before congress and testify that they believed nicotine wasn't addictive. At the time it wasn't given the accepted medical definition. Which is why I have to laugh at some of the "Truth" commercials. The new use had advocates at the time but it wasn't accepted until the mid to late '90s.
Okay so I didn't add to the discussion topic of flavored cola, this stuff just really bugs me sometimes...
|No, you didn't add to the topic but you do raise an interesting||eyebob|
Dec 16, 2002 5:52 AM
|point that I will add to. I'm an eye doctor and often times I'll see patients who's chief complaint is that of "headaches." I can't tell you how many of them will, whether consciously or not, describe the pain as "migraine" when in fact they are not. When and where did the the diagnosis of migraine enter into the vernacular in such a way to displace the term "headache?" I could give you other examples but that one's stuck in my craw for a while so I thought that I'd vent.
Dec 16, 2002 3:13 PM
|But if you've never had a real migraine (which I'm sure I haven't - knock on wood) how can you tell the difference between a migraine and a really bad headache from something else?|
|Why assume the worst?||eyebob|
Dec 17, 2002 8:14 AM
|That's my point. When you go to the doc because you've got a headache, why assume that its anything until proven otherwise? Could be caused by lots of things, right?
To answer your question directly, what purpose does it serve to not look into things a bit before you diagnose yourself. I'm not talking about people who say "hey doc,I think that I'm having migraines" and then proceed to tell me why, I'm talking about folks who assume the worst. Just read up a bit and realise that every diagnosis has specific signs and symptoms associated with it.
|The downfall of English - it doesn't adapt very well.||Kristin|
Dec 16, 2002 7:04 AM
|It doens't have enough words to begin with. And we never create new words unless its slang. What we need in the case above are two separate terms to describe physical dependancies and behavioral dependancies. But like everything else, we lump them all into one term. Like the word love. We have the only language with only one word to describe every type of affection. English is also one of the most unattractive languages. I say we pick another and give up on english all together!
Okay, I'm joking. I couldn't learn another language if I tried.
|Oh yeah...and vanilla coke is just nasty. nm||Kristin|
Dec 16, 2002 7:06 AM
|Hey Kristin - What'd you decide about those tights?||Captain Morgan|
Dec 16, 2002 7:13 AM
|Please, don't leave us hanging!
(Just kidding -- I couldn't resist! Have a great week...)
Dec 16, 2002 11:28 AM
|Language is arbitrary. No one sits down and "invents" a langage; it evolves through usage. English may be the most arbitrary, in that it has borrowed from many other languages, and will not hesitate to co-opt words from others, or simply make some up.
We actually create many words. What was a "byte" 100 years ago?
Remember that dictionaries are "descriptive," rather than "prescriptive." They tell how how we really are using words, rather than how we should use them. With that in mind, they, as well as the words, are subject to change based upon actual usage.
I want someone to invent some words. I can't stand having to say "and/or". There should be a word for that. Also, there should be a single word for "including, but not limited to...". The legal profession could benefit from invention of many words to replace some awkward phrases.
I think eventually English will be the only language on the planet. Everything else will simply be assimilated (resistance is futile!).
|Better than the alternatives...||Matno|
Dec 16, 2002 3:11 PM
|I don't know of any languages that have more words than English. We may not follow rules, but we have a lot more words than most. For example, the English language has the "largest vocabulary of any language: at least one million words (two million if scientific terms are included)" (http://mockingbird.creighton.edu/english/fajardo/teaching/eng520/eng-overview.htm)
In my experience, (which is only Spanish and German) other languages tend to develop new words far less frequently. In fact, with technological words, they often just use the English.
If you think English is unattractive, try Hebrew or Arabic. (Unless you LIKE gutteral sounds). They make German sound positively smooth flowing...
I'm just glad I wasn't born in a Chinese speaking country! Talk about tough to learn! (On the other hand, if I had been, then English would probably seem easy, AND I would be fluent in Chinese...)
|"NBC Next" "Your News" "Our News" (more less relevant stuff)||128|
Dec 16, 2002 11:05 AM
|These little creeping phrases drive me batty. First of all, that 'guy-who-introduces-everything' with the WAAAY too gravely low voice, he of cinema trailers and tv, I would like him to be more quiet. And "NBC Friday" or "ABC Next!"What happened to "Friday on NBC" when introducing the 'most watched comedy...?'. Just say "Friday on NBC!!!!" and it's not MY news or YOUR news it's 'the' news. Isn't it?? When did it become 'my news?' (weird what pisses us off)
Life is too short to get upset with the little things: so exagerate them and squeeze it all in.
And when did "my bag" become "my bad?" Did I miss a beat there?
|bag vs. bad||mickey-mac|
Dec 16, 2002 11:27 AM
|"And when did "my bag" become "my bad?" Did I miss a beat there?"
As I've heard it used, "my bag" means something like "my thing." (E.g., Spelunking isn't my bag.) OTOH, I've always understood "my bad" to mean "my screw-up."
|bag vs. bad||128|
Dec 16, 2002 11:48 AM
|agreed but, your interpretation: "what I'm into" circa 1960 was prior to the rap revolution where (Remember Newt Gingrinches Rap-revoltion?), if I recall correctly in the early 90's "My bag" as "thing" was displaced and came to mean:"My fault." Kind of a crossover "D'oh!"
Big fuss over at OED (Oxford English Dictionary for all you who didn't know that!) for adding slang words in their standard dictionary instead of in the slang dictionary.