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What passes for a moron in Canada...VertAddict
Dec 2, 2002 1:37 AM
I feel compelled as an Albertan in Canada to set the record straight on the whole controversy that was created when our Prime Minister's press secretary called Pres. Bush a moron a week ago. First of all, I'm sure that what she said echoes the sentiments of the majority of her Liberal party, and certainly the Prime Minister's office. Being anti-American is a way of life for those people. However, her comments are not reflective of what the majority of the people in my western-Canadian province, Alberta, would feel. Chretien was voted against by the majority here (the reason he got almost no seats from the province in the last election) and has been very consistent in going counter to the sensibilities of Albertans, much to our dissatisfaction and dismay (I won't bore you with all the details).

There's some deep irony here; she's calling Bush a moron when she works for the laughing-stock of the international community, and certainly the biggest buffoon Canadians have ever elevated to the office of Prime Minister. We're talking about a guy who can't construct a gramatically correct sentence in either English or French (this is true). The fact that he tried to just sweep the incident under the rug and didn't accept Ducros' initial resignation underlines his stupidity: given the international climate we are in, how much sense does it make, regardless of personal sentiment, to piss off the world's leading superpower and our biggest trading partner? The man is an idiot.

Oh, I know, there are those Democrat/liberal/socialists out there (czardonic, perchance?) in both Canada and the USA who would congratulate Canada for the comment, given their personal animosity for President Bush. Just please believe that there is at least one corner of this country that appreciates the USA for all it does for us and the world.

To sum it up, any way you look at it both the initial comment and the subsequent handling of it were ill-conceived and potentially dangerous to Canada's political standing with the USA. So I ask: Who's the moron?
bad form for any leadertrekkie1
Dec 2, 2002 8:55 AM
Bad form for any leader to call the leader of another country a moron. True or not, which it isn't, it doesn't exactly foster good relations. Bad diplomatic move.

It's fine to say you disagree, but calling another world leader childish names is not smart.
Dec 2, 2002 10:56 AM
she did it off the record to one reporter but was speaking loudly enough that other reporters heard and reported on it. not any more embarrasing than when reagan didnt realize his mic was on and said "we begin bombing in 5 minutes". you gotta believe that most leaders talk trash behind each others backs when the cameras arent on.
re: What passes for a moron in Canada? Gdubyajrm
Dec 2, 2002 3:29 PM
Thats who.
How about a press secretary who can't keep her mouth shut?TJeanloz
Dec 3, 2002 8:05 AM
Who's the moron in this scenario, other than the press secretary, who must know better, saying things in public, around the press, regarding the intellect of the leader of a close ally?

Her actions seem to demonstrate her own intellect...
How about a press secretary who can't keep her mouth shut?Jon Billheimer
Dec 4, 2002 8:27 AM
Francie Ducros got "outed" for her comments by another reporter because she is roundly hated by the press gallery. Serves her right; what goes around comes around.

Although I'm not pro-Bush I'd agree substantially with Vert about most Albertans' political sensibilities--and probably most Canadians'. We are regularly embarrassed by this imbecile in Ottawa with a Nero complex.