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Thanksgiving(13 posts)

ThanksgivingEager Beagle
Nov 28, 2002 6:29 AM
Well, folks, happy holidays.

I thought all you liberal newspaper haters might like to pick holes in the Guardian's Guide to Thanksgiving, so please queue up to point out all the bias and inaccuracy!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/netnotes/article/0,6729,603237,00.html

Remember, you know it's all "shit"!
Mostly fair, but the Guardian's ignorance shows through,TJeanloz
Nov 29, 2002 8:28 AM
The Guardian, which I love and respect, came so close to showing that they know what they're talking about. But out goes their credibility when they say that a 'plethora' of football games are on television. There are only three nationally televised football games on Thanksgiving Day; the Lions and Cowboys each host a home game, and there is a college game at night (Mississippi vs. Mississippi State this year). This is less football than is on every weekend in the fall, and hardly a plethora.
Geez, TJ!.....Jon Billheimer
Nov 29, 2002 9:01 AM
Give the foreigners a break.
I guess the assumptionyou can makeMJ
Nov 29, 2002 9:06 AM
is that more than one game (or quarter) of American football is considered excessive in Euro-eyes

Euros do not understand American football
And Americans do not understand European football (nm)TJeanloz
Nov 29, 2002 9:29 AM
perhaps as a wholeMJ
Nov 29, 2002 9:35 AM
but those that are into soccer are really into it and are very knowledgable - I imagine there's a high cross over with cycling and soccer

the US team did great in the world cup - absolutely dismembered the Portugese - if it wasn't for the German handball on the line in the goal mouth who knows what the outcome of that quarterfinal game would have been
Perhaps in time the Euros will come to their senses.Sintesi
Nov 29, 2002 9:42 AM
And recognize the fine game of American death sport, I mean football. Really, you guys don't nearly get enough violence in your life.

BTW, keen observation. First the TdF, next the World cup. That is the plan. The hegemony continues.
dunnoMJ
Nov 29, 2002 9:52 AM
in the US "public" violence, with the exception of people going postal, is fairly limited

on the other hand town centres in the UK are war zones on Friday and Saturday nights - no guns means people beat the hell out of each other with little pause or consideration...

I know many people here who rooted against America in the World Cup, despite the US being underdogs, solely because the US is tops at so many other things - hegemony noted
Same with American Football -TJeanloz
Nov 29, 2002 9:47 AM
The NFL Europe has been surprisingly popular for its fan base (which is primarily in Germany). It's beginning to develop into the premeir "farm system" for the NFL.
Same with American Football -MJ
Nov 29, 2002 9:58 AM
yeah I've seen a few of those games - kids from second tier football universities who are trying to get their shot at the big time

same thing with basketball

I've also been to a few similar hockey games with a Canadian guy I work with (London Knights) - he describes the players as small farm kids from Saskatchewan who like to fight - it's always entertaining
Secret PlotsJon Billheimer
Nov 29, 2002 10:11 AM
There's a secret American plot to take over the world through sports dominance. That way they can get rid of the State Department and Dept. of Defence! (But, DOH! George, Condee, and Colin wouldn't have anything to do!) Being in the forefront of most things unimportant, as we are, we Canadians have frustrated the arrogant American imperialists by soundly kicking their collective butts on the ice rink at Salt Lake City!:)-

BTW, an aging German friend of mine averred, during the 2001 World Track and Field Championships here in Edmonton, that he was rooting for "anyone but the Yanks." Whereupon I informed him that I, too, am a Yank. Heinz spent the rest of the summer telling me how nice Americans really are and about all of his family's American friends during and after the war! Quite hilarious, really.
re: ThanksgivingSpoke Wrench
Nov 29, 2002 2:05 PM
I liked tha part about Thanksgiving being a relatively uncommercialized holiday. I think that business interests in the United States would love to get Thanksgiving out of the way so that they could be more effective in starting the Christmas shopping season sooner. In fact, I understand that an attempt was made to change the timing for Thanksgiving during the FDR era.

For the record, Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday of the entire year. All of my kids and their families get together and just enjoy one another's company without the unrealistic expectations and tensions that accompiany the whole gift giving ritual.
Cricket is the game full stopNoam
Nov 30, 2002 4:27 AM