Nov 4, 2002 1:34 PM
|Tomorrow is election day in the US. Any predictions? I live in Maryland. There are three significant races in the state -- the governorship and two hotly contested congressional seats (2nd and 8th Districts). I predict that Republican candidate (Ehrlich) will win the governorship. The Republicans and Democrats will split two contested congressional races (Morella, the Republican, will win in the 8th and Ruppersberger, the Democrat, will win in the 2nd). Neither of the Senate seats are up this year in Maryland. Nationally, I predict that the Senate will remain (barely) in Democratic hands (thanks, in part, to the septuagenarian substitutes in Minnesota and New Jersey) and that the House will remain in Republican hands.|
|Tight senate race in Missouri.||Spoke Wrench|
Nov 4, 2002 2:24 PM
|The word I hear is that the Republican core voters come out regardless of the weather and the Democrats do a better job of getting out the vote in good weather. We have rain predicted for tomorrow, so I'm picking Talent over Carnahan.|
|I'm a Democrat who votes even when it rains . . .||ms|
Nov 4, 2002 2:43 PM
|But, you are right. The belief among political pundits is that Republicans come out to the polls regardless of the weather and that many Democrats only come out when the sun is shining. Is the same true with cyclists -- Do Republican cyclists ride regardless of the weather and Democratic cyclists stay home when the roads are cold and wet? If so, I guess that again I am not true to type.|
|Me too.||Spoke Wrench|
Nov 5, 2002 6:32 AM
|I think that Republicans are more likely to play golf than bicycle when it rains.|
Nov 5, 2002 6:51 AM
|There is no doubt in my mind that Golf is a Republican sport notwithstanding Bill Clinton's playing the game. I had always thought that cycling was more Democratic than Republican. But, given the political views of the guys with whom I ride and many of the views I see on this board, I am beginning to think that cycling is almost as Republican as is golf. After all, Lance and W appear to be fairly tight.|
Nov 5, 2002 7:16 AM
|"After all, Lance and W appear to be fairly tight."
Thats a Texas thang, not politics.
|Golf as a "republican" sport||PaulCL|
Nov 5, 2002 8:13 AM
|Maybe once, but not now. Twenty five + years ago most of the golf courses in the USA were private. Now, the public courses outnumber the private ones by about a 10:1 margin. Golf is now everyman's sport. My numbers may be off a bit, but the point is the same.
Cycling a democrat sport?? Not. Too expensive.
If I was forced to tie a sport to a political party, I would make a spectator sport (NFL, MLB, NHL, etc) democrat sports. I guess I have the vision of some blue collar guy, his team jersey on, beer things on his ballcap, getting drunk on Bud, painting his fat belly, cheering on the home team. Bad image. Very wrong, but that's what's stuck in my mind. Maybe NFL is a republican sport since the tickets are so ridiculously expensive.
Now tennis...that's a republican sport.
|cost of sport -- political preference||ms|
Nov 5, 2002 9:08 AM
|My first reaction would be to agree with your basic assumption that the cost of a sport has some correlation with the political preferences of its fans. Notwithstanding all the fun that we could have with our generalizations, there probably is not much correlation between the cost of a sport and the political preferences of those who participate in it (excepting things like yacht racing and fox hunting). For example, George W. Bush, who is not poor and has country club antecedents that are about as strong as anyone, is a runner -- one of the cheapest sports around.|
|cost of sport -- political preference||PaulCL|
Nov 5, 2002 10:06 AM
|An immediate exception: Ted Turner. Yachtsman. Democrat. Though, the mouth of the south used to be a republican until he made so much money that he could never lose it. Also, I think a condition of his marriage to Jane Fonda was a conversion to a democrat.
You are right. The money/party affiliation doesn't really work. I don't play golf, don't play tennis, don't go yachting, haven't shot a fox in years, like to watch football, but can't stand Bud...and I consider myself a republican (with notible exceptions - I pulled the lever for a democratic congressman this AM).
Nov 5, 2002 10:38 AM
|Glad to hear that you voted for a Democratic congressman even though you are a Republican. I'm a Democrat that voted for a few Republicans this morning. The only way we are going to have sane politics (i.e., not extreme at either end of the ideological spectrum) is if people are willing to cross party lines when appropriate.|
|I predict that Gov. George Ryan will be dethroned||Kristin|
Nov 4, 2002 2:33 PM
|And I will drink to that. As to who will win? I predict the the dope smoker. I like Jim Ryan, but he's had too many troubles these past years. He has hardly been present for his own campaign. He should take some time off. Globoiyovitch will win.|
|Globoiyouitch only has a chance because .....||Spoke Wrench|
Nov 5, 2002 6:29 AM
|it's not a write in ballot.|
|Awful candidates for state office in IL this year.||Alex-in-Evanston|
Nov 5, 2002 9:09 AM
|To be honest, this leftist will miss George Ryan. I can't believe I punched the ballot for who I did this morning. To think I almost could have voted for a very qualified and dedicated Paul Vallas. It breaks the heart, but Rod had the machine on his side and beat a better man in the primary.
Oh well. At least I can be proud of my congressional candidates.
|re: Election predictions?||4bykn|
Nov 5, 2002 9:30 AM
|One of the interesting provisions in my latest UAW contract is we get federal election days off, paid! I suppose this makes the union a stronger political force, more members are likely to vote. As for me, I haven't missed an election since I've been old enough to vote.|
|prediction: nothing will change||mr_spin|
Nov 5, 2002 9:46 AM
|Same old, same old. Candidates and issues, bought and paid for. Your vote is just a formality.|
|So you don't vote then? (nm)||Kristin|
Nov 5, 2002 11:02 AM
|Is that supposed to mean it's my fault? nm||mr_spin|
Nov 5, 2002 11:42 AM
|Libertarians take the US House of Representatives||js5280|
Nov 5, 2002 11:17 AM
|But in reality, nothing will change. We, the people, will continue to get the shaft and the politicians will reward their buddies with our extorted tax dollars, punish their enemies, and surreptitiously try to perpetuate their stay in power. The only positive of this election will be that we won't be subjected to more of the really negative political ads till next year. Anyone else see the Saturday Night Live paradies this past Saturday? Great stuff.
When will people learn politicians don't give a rat's ass about you? There is no difference between a Democrat or Republican, they both want more money and power, they just want to direct it differently. When one "grows up" as an responsible individual, we lessen our dependence on our guardians. Why does not this premise hold true for government's role?
WHY DOES ONE SPEND MILLIONS TO GET A POSITION THAT PAYS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS? Quit looking to government to solve your problems and quit forcing others to pay for government solutions that never work anyways. Government does not work, it's only a tool of force. As much as corporations have been demonized in the past year, the government is far more diabolical. VOTE LIBERTARIAN NOW and maybe someday we won't all be enslaved to pay for all the wonderful government programs we have.
From BONDAGE to SPIRITUAL FAITH, From Spiritual Faith to GREAT COURAGE, from Great Courage to ABUNDANCE, from Abundance to SELFISHNESS, from Selfishness to COMPLACENCY, from Complacency to APATHY, from Apathy to DEPENDENCY and finally back again into BONDAGE.
|Libertarians take the US House of Representatives||alchemy43|
Nov 5, 2002 4:19 PM
|Right on js5280!!!
Liberty in our lifetime.
Nov 6, 2002 10:43 AM
|ps - what would a Libertarian sport be?|
Nov 6, 2002 11:48 AM
|anything involving guns of course! ;)|
Nov 6, 2002 2:13 PM