|Anybody else sick of all these athlete's kids popping up||chopper|
Oct 28, 2002 12:22 PM
|everywhere? Is this a new thing? I sure don't remember ever seeing Magic's kids after the Lakers' victories or Lasorda's kids in the dugout. Just how many kids were in the Giants' dugout? It looked like preschool. There's also Lance's kids and Zabel's kids always on the podium. I don't know why this irks me so much?|
|Maybe 'cause you don 't have kids ???||PaulCL|
Oct 28, 2002 12:35 PM
|I think its' great. The older kids will forever remember being in a MLB dugout during the World Series or standing next to their Dad on a podium at the TDF.|
|you don't like kids I take it?||ColnagoFE|
Oct 28, 2002 12:37 PM
|I don't see why this is a big deal. I think it's cool that people like Lance have a life outside of cycling and involve their kids in what they do.|
|I think I know what it is the more I think of it...........||chopper|
Oct 28, 2002 12:47 PM
|Actually the podium kids don't really bother as much as the dugout kids and I think its because it seemed like the TV producers always cut to the kids when something happened. The amount of camera time that the kids got was tremendous and they followed one of the kids into the locker room last night that was crying, I don't remember which kid but he was like 3 years old. And no I don't have kids but I do like kids. BTW, do these guys not have daughters?|
|I think I know what it is the more I think of it...........||TypeOne|
Oct 28, 2002 7:51 PM
|That was Dusty Baker's kid. I had a mixed response to the camera shot of the kid crying. Dusty looked a little misty, too. I suppose that was good to see some genuine emotion from overpaid athletes...or their kids. But it was also another example of this tyke being too young to be there.
I was really irked to see Dusty's kid in Game 5 or 6 (I forget) run out there to get the bat as JT Snow crossed home and the ball was coming to the plate. What the heck was the kid thinking? Now Dad looks like a bonehead on a national stage for nearly getting his kid killed. Sportscasters played it off as cute - I thought it was irresponsible. I remember reading about a college football game where they had some 5-year old running out to pick up the tee on kickoffs. No one advised the kid to stay on the sidelines as the teams lined up for an obvious onsides kick, and the kid was nearly knocked senseless when the play began.
Otherwise, yeah, I think it's cool that Dads will let their kids experience something like the World Series. It's just a kids' game anyway.
Oct 28, 2002 1:06 PM
|Basically, these guys want the world to know that they are healthy, wealthy, and especially virile men. They hold up their kids and say: "Hey world, look at me, I created this with my fully functional and potent penis. Women, come to me and I will impregnate you."
It's pretty standard Alpha male behaviour.
|It's marketing||August West|
Oct 28, 2002 1:46 PM
|Classic spin, Mr_Spin!! That's the funniest thing I've seen all week! At least I'll be more subtle with who I brag to about my kids, don't want to send the wrong signals.
Three things sell in TV -- Kids, Puppies and Cleavage. It's what you put on in between all the gore.
|That's a cold and passionless analysis||Starliner|
Oct 28, 2002 1:54 PM
|All men were boys once, and as many boys do, fantasized of making it to the World Series. Now that they were there, they simply wanted to let their own boys share the experience. A purely human experience that few of us ever have the opportunity to live out.
To simply write it off as something shallow and vain is to dehumanize them. Which is something that occurs too easily and often in our culture when contemplating the motivations of men.
Shame, shame, shame.
|re: Anybody else sick of all these athlete's kids popping up||Matt Britter|
Oct 28, 2002 5:00 PM
|If I was in the World series or on the block at the TdF I would want to share the experience with my kid(s). Both have sacificed alot of time away from each other, so it would be a great memory for both.
just my .02
|I think that's why I was pulling||JL|
Oct 28, 2002 8:17 PM
|for Anaheim more. I wanted them to win already but the "daycare dugout" was ridiculous. After a big win in a championship game, the TDF or other sporting event you kind of expect to see the wife/kids/family, but not so many in a dugout during the game.
It looks like baseball is already going to change the rules to eliminate this next year and beyond. Selig said they were embarrassed by the play where J.T. Snow basically saved Baker's 3 1/2 year old at home plate. They're going to limit the dugout to 2 bat boys only. Too bad San Fran. couldn't keep the daycare in check and that it had to come to this.
|I think that's why I was pulling||August West|
Oct 29, 2002 5:46 AM
|Selig should be embarrassed by the demise of the sport of which he's in charge. More kids in baseball is what it needs! In fact, they're stupid to run the games so late that kids on the east coast couldn't watch the world series, even if it's filled with just California's teams. Kids are the only one's forget about the strikes we've seen or how overpaid these guys are.
|I agree the game needs kids,||JL|
Oct 29, 2002 7:38 AM
|just not an entire daycare in the dugout.|
|"It's a great moment for kids to see"||TJeanloz|
Oct 29, 2002 6:43 AM
|I don't buy the "It's a great thing for fathers to share this moment with their kids, who have sacrificed too." We don't accept this in the rest of the professional world. Congresspeople don't bring their kids to sit on the floor for an important debate. Lawyers don't have their 3 year old kid sitting "right chair" during a major trial. Business leaders don't have their infants present in major negotiations. People at the top of their game, whatever the game, don't usually involve their kids IN THE GAME. I think it is mildly appropriate for the kids to be involved in the post-game celebration, but not in the work itself.
The problem I have with it is why should Dusty Baker's kid get to be in the dugout? What did he do, except be Dusty Baker's kid to earn the job? What 8 year old wouldn't LOVE to be a batboy? Why should the kid with the inside relationship get the job, over somebody who actually won't run onto the field of play (i.e. somebody who is capable of doing the job).
|missing a great opportunity||trekkie1|
Oct 29, 2002 7:00 AM
|Just think of the world if the opposite of what you suggest were true -- pro riders *must* have a baby carrier with baby along for all stages. I'd bet ratings would sky rocket!
Sure, have babies on the floor of the legislature, passenger seat in stock car races, Madonna's kids on stage... the world would be an entirely different place.