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Anyone into handguns ??(17 posts)

Anyone into handguns ??quadzilla1
Oct 21, 2002 6:43 PM
I'm currently shooting a Kel-Tec p11 9mm. I'm having problems with it ejecting the spent shell casings (stove-piping?). Any ideas what causes this? It's been field stripped, super cleaned & lubed. Magazine ramp polished (fluffed & buffed as they say). Possible I used too much lube? Doesn't appear to. Weird thing though, the more I shot (about 100 rounds) & the dirtier it got, it seemed to stop jamming. Was using 115 gr Wolf ammo & Winchester. Seemed better with the Winchester.... Help?
Love them!Matno
Oct 22, 2002 4:42 AM
Some gun/ammo combinations are just not that compatible. You can try using ammo that is more/less powerful to see if that helps. Also, a lighter spring might do the trick. If it really gets more reliable when it's dirty, I say leave it dirty. Keep the barrel cleaned out occasionally, and you'll be fine.

The Kel-Tec is a fun little gun, but it's not necessarily of the best quality. I've shot thousands of rounds through my Sig Sauer P226 almost without a single jam. Much of that was using cheap, generic, homemade ammo. The only jams I've ever had were from ammo that simply wasn't strong enough to blow the slide back. (I could feel the difference when it happened. They were obvious duds). I've even put empty shells into the magazine, and they feed perfectly. Same with the Glock my dad uses. I guess that with guns, like bikes, you get what you pay for. For recreation, it's little more than an annoyance. If you're using it for self defense, it could be deadly (to you).
this guy probably isMJ
Oct 22, 2002 5:11 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/22/national/22CND-SHOOT.html
let this thread die please...no pro/anti gun stuff. it's boringColnagoFE
Oct 22, 2002 5:27 AM
same stuff gets trotted out everytime. nothing gets resolved. yawn...
re: Anyone into handguns ??firstrax
Oct 22, 2002 5:30 AM
Of course, my office is next door to Sig. Ive got the 232 two tone finish as my concealed carry and the 220 as my target gun. I also have a Daewoo DP-51. Not very common, but its well made and its pre high capacity ban.
The funny thing about guns with mostly machined parts (as opposed to stamped)they seem to shoot better after you run a few rounds through them.
thanks for the insights...quadzilla1
Oct 22, 2002 9:39 AM
I'll try some different kinds of ammo. I was afraid to use 145 grain because of the light weight of the gun, but that may help. I may reconsider using this as a carry gun until I can work this out. I had a Walther ppk that I loved, but it was stolen years ago. I'd love to get a Sig, but the $$$ was out of the question.

I suppose I was expecting some of the other reactions to this question though, and that's unfortunate. This is just a hobby that I really enjoy doing. Nothing political was in my question.
re: Anyone into handguns ??Pygme
Oct 22, 2002 9:33 AM
Your cheapest route is to try different ammo. My S&W is very particular about which ammo I use. Unless I used quality ammo I ten to get stovepipes. Not a good thing when you are pulling over a crack dealer in the hood without back-up.

Why let this thread die, Colnago? Did you even read the post. Did you know that you DONT have an expressed right to own a bike but you do a gun?

For the record, my favorite handgun right now is a Sig P229. Chromed out, walnut handgrips with enlays, trijicon nightsights, and custom engraving from the 100 club of Houston.

Never been fired, and probably never will.
No right to own a bike?czardonic
Oct 22, 2002 10:16 AM
Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


And if you want to argue that the law can be changed to prohibit bikes, well so can the Constitution be amended to prohibit guns.
Must .... restrain .... self.... to .... agree.....moneyman
Oct 22, 2002 1:34 PM
I cannot believe it, but I agree with you.

$$
No right to own a bike?Pygme
Oct 23, 2002 3:10 PM
Read it again, the operative word here is "expressed."
I meant to keep it related to the mechanics of handgunsColnagoFE
Oct 22, 2002 10:20 AM
and not the political arguments for and against gun ownership. seems that everytime you mention something about a gun you get 30 posts on the second ammendment as well as 30 others that say they should be outlawed. kinda like those endless helmet debates on rec.bikes.soc
Anyone got a set of these?firstrax
Oct 22, 2002 10:56 AM
LOL. Dig the Mountain Dew Shotgun.czardonic
Oct 22, 2002 11:06 AM
http://www.birdman.org/products/DoTheDew.htm
Master, what is with this new genial attitude?Sintesi
Oct 22, 2002 11:36 AM
This is not like you master.
this site has gotta be a big jokeColnagoFE
Oct 22, 2002 12:15 PM
http://birdman.org/products/Nuke50.htm

check this one out.
Anyone got a set of these?BikeViking
Oct 23, 2002 6:01 AM
That is funny! An acquaintance of mie worked as a Baltimore cop and he swore the best way to be shot at and not hit was to have the dopey shooter pull that "cool" sideways shooting stunt. It's a guaranteed miss. I have yet to try it at the range, but I plan on giving it a go the next time I am out there.

Anyone who really wants to hit what they aim at, will not shoot like George Clooney in "From Dusk Till Dawn".
Anyone got a set of these?Pygme
Oct 23, 2002 3:11 PM
That is a classic! I am forwarding it to all my police friends!