Oct 15, 2002 11:18 PM
|Has there been much coverage of the Bali bombing terrorist attacks in the US?
About 180 people are confirmed killed, with a similar number injured, the majority of whom are expected to be Australian.
I guess as an Australian I now have a far better understanding of the impact of September 11 would have had in the US. It's heartbraking stuff.
Bali was a popular holiday destination with Aussies (I've been there), with most of the victims quite young. It will likely also destroy Bali's tourism based economy.
Reports have linked the bombing to an Indonesian based fundamentalist Islamic organisation with links to al-Quaeda.
It's a sometimes cruel world out there, and we're all potentially vulnerable.
Ride safe and enjoy what you've got.
|re: Bali Bombings||ClydeTri|
Oct 16, 2002 4:08 AM
|yes, quite a bit of television coverage and front page newspaper coverage....thoughts are with you .|
|"Far better understanding of the impact..."||Captain Morgan|
Oct 16, 2002 5:13 AM
|Your words are interesting. There has been some America-bashing by some of our allies like Germany and France. I believe that if the French had the Eiffel Tower blown up by terrorists, they would be more inclined to consider the worldwide threat and be more in our corner on a number of issues.|
|Speaking of understanding||Pygme|
Oct 16, 2002 5:49 AM
|Speaking of understanding, I think the officials is the Washington DC area are moving way to fast in regards to the sniper.
It is obvious that they need to step back and try to understand him. They need to understand what the rest of us did to make him angry.
Above all, they need to have a debate and take a vote before congress to garner a coalition of all 50 states before taking any action.
|Re your last line....||Eager Beagle|
Oct 16, 2002 6:11 AM
|It's odd, is it not, that there is such an outcry over the death of around 140 people in this respect.
It was a hedious outrage, no doubt. But, the death toll represents only 5 days' worth of deaths on the road in the UK, most of which are completely avoidabe.
Just to make you non residents laugh - the current government decided not to complete their election pledge to lower the legal blood/alcohol level as there "was no evidence of a connection beteen levels and accidents" - no, I'm not making it up. Anyway...
The utilitarians amounst us may query where the funds and resources are best directed?
|Not a deterrent||Captain Morgan|
Oct 16, 2002 6:22 AM
|Do you think a lowering of the legal blood/alcohol level would deter that many people from drinking? I do not. Maybe some, but not most. Most people have no idea what their level is anyway. Its not like they can check it at the bar.
I think the driving deaths are probably more related to the fact that you all drive on the wrong side of the road! Just kiddin'.
|Yeah I do.||Eager Beagle|
Oct 16, 2002 6:30 AM
|It it were nil, everyone would know that you don't drink and drive period. And why not?
Actually you can. Level testers are pretty common in bars here (UK), and motor stores and garages sell little disposable testers.
Sure people may not use them, but to me it's a no-brainer, like riding with your helmet on - why on earth do we let people drive cars with alcohol in their blood? In the UK, govt figs are that around 75% of fatal accidents involve alcohol/drugs.
I would have thought that would have told an intelligent society all they need to know.
|Yeah I do.||Jon Billheimer|
Oct 16, 2002 7:13 AM
Since when are any of our societies intelligent?....or at least rational? That's the domain of Spock and his Vulcan relatives!
|Fair point, though||Eager Beagle|
Oct 16, 2002 7:17 AM
|actually it doesn't usually seem to be the actual society that's the problem (they are just generally disinterested), it's the *uckwitts that get elected to make decisions like that.|
|This idea would never work in the states.||Sintesi|
Oct 16, 2002 9:59 AM
|How can you drive to the bar if you can't drive home? We would be shuttin' down the bars and that means no more wet t-shirt contests. No, No, it'd never work. They need some sort of public transport. Here's what I envision: No more bars in the city limits. Every town or city would have an attendant adult playground called Boozeville. The only way to get there would be way of a public railway system. They could use old cattle cars, that way they'd be easier to hose all the vomit out of them at the end of the night. Of course I haven't figured out how to get this hoard of drunks home from the railway station but perhaps busing would be the answer. Obvious cycling benefits would be less cluttered roadways (15% of US traffic is people traveling to and from bars) and less refuse on the roadways since no one will be hurling trash at cyclists. Heaven , no?|| |