|What book are you currently reading?||Dave Hickey|
Aug 26, 2002 6:43 AM
|I'm a big Clive Cussler fan and I just finished his latest book, "Valhalla Rising". In the book, he makes many references to Jules Verne's "The Mysterious Island". This was supposed to be Vern's follow up to "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea".
I started reading "The Mysterious Island" last night. It's amazing that this was written in 1874. Vern has a knack for keeping me entertained with a mix of suspense and science fiction.
|Shakey--Neil Young's Bio (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Aug 26, 2002 7:11 AM
|Computrainer user manual||DougSloan|
Aug 26, 2002 7:13 AM
|I never read fiction, only non-fiction. I realize that runs counter to my degree in philosphy, with English and poly-sci minors, but I just find fiction a waste of time when I could be learning some good factual info. I'll wait for the movies to come out. ;-)
|It depends on who writes the fiction...||MXL02|
Aug 26, 2002 8:03 AM
|post of the pulp fiction out there isn't worth reading, but anything by William Styron awesome.|
|I read lots of NF too, but plenty of thought provoking fiction||ColnagoFE|
Aug 26, 2002 8:45 AM
|Try William T Vollmann, T. Pynchon, David Foster Wallace, Irvine Welsh. I pretty much read anything that any of these authors puts out. Vollmann is especially interesting as he has written a good number of historical novels that are based in non-fiction, but use the fiction genre to tell some very interesting and bizarre stories.|
|How can you be sure||mr_spin|
Aug 26, 2002 8:57 AM
|Chances are, your Computrainer user manual doesn't contain much fiction, but how do you know your other "non-fiction" books are truly that?
They wouldn't print it if it wasn't true, right?
Anyone remember Hitler's Diaries?
|Just finished two||terry b|
Aug 26, 2002 7:27 AM
|Killing Pablo by Mark Bowden - account of the manhunt for Pablo Escobar - a real page turner.
Cadence of the Grass by Thomas McGuane - his first novel in a million years. Never been a big fan of his, but this one was really good.
I'm about to start Isaac's Storm by Erik Larson - account of the very nasty Galveston hurricane.
|Pablo Escobar||Dave Hickey|
Aug 26, 2002 8:01 AM
|I've always had a perverse fascination with the 70's and 80's Columbian drug cartels. I'll have to pickup a copy of that book. I was big fan of IMSA sports car racing the late 70's and early 80's. All my favorite drivers such as John Paul and the Whittington brothers are all doing time for drug smuggling. I aways wondered how these guys always had the latest Porsche 935's.|
|Killing Pablo is a good read if a little confused.||Sintesi|
Aug 26, 2002 9:19 AM
|I'd recommend it. Columbia is just unbelievably corrupt, you can't imagine how bad it is.
Black Hawk Down by Bowden is a better read tho. Absolutely better than the sorta toned down movie version.
|I agree||terry b|
Aug 26, 2002 10:25 AM
|Black Hawk down was fantastic. I think Bowden drops a lot of information in his books and Killing Pablo suffered a bit from that. I had a particularly hard time keeping track of the players. Did the same thing in BHD, but for some reason I was better able to digest the quantity.
It was interesting to see that Killing Pablo and News of a Kidnapping (by Gabriel Garcia Marquez) intersected. I'd read the latter a couple of years ago and was reminded of it via Bowden's references. As I recall, tracking the characters in that one was pretty tough too.
|bin Laden: The man who declared war on America.||MXL02|
Aug 26, 2002 8:02 AM
|by Yosef Bodansky. Trying to understand bin Laden and the militant Muslim point of view.|
|A quick read on Islam in general||terry b|
Aug 26, 2002 10:35 AM
|Islam by Karen Armstrong. Only about 180 pages, real fast. I picked it up last year after 9-11 trying to get an historical perspective on the whole Judaism-Christianity-Islam mess. Also was getting confused by the obscure bin Laden references to the "end of the Caliphate."
This book made it pretty clear to me that based on the history of the religion and the region, there is no reasoning with the militants.
Also good is Soldiers of God by Robert Kaplan. Covers the rise of the Mujahaddin in Afghanistan and (to a small extent) the role of the Wahhabist Saudis in that region. A little dated but worth it because Kaplan is a very smart writer.
|Run with the Hunted. a Charles Bukowski reader.||Sintesi|
Aug 26, 2002 9:15 AM
|He's my new favorite author. Read "Pulp" in two days on the train. Great stuff. Great stuff.|
|Bukowski = The Anti-Roadie||scottfree|
Aug 26, 2002 10:21 AM
|Why the narrow characterization?||Sintesi|
Aug 26, 2002 10:52 AM
|Actually Bukowski is anti-human.
It would be hard tho to be an avid cyclist, smoke two packs a day and begin drinking at breakfast. Not to mention all those annoying hookers and bar-hags hopped up on pills and wine, hanging at your house all day, mooching Clif bars and borrowing your rig to go down to the grocery store to get a sixpack and some sausage for a little party. ; p
|Gary Snyder once said Buk was||scottfree|
Aug 26, 2002 11:18 AM
|one of the great nature writers. The interviewer sputtered, "That's crazy! Nature doesn't appear in Bukowski at ALL!" Au contraire, Snyder said. Bukowski is nothing BUT nature, a big animal,living an entirely natural life, a giant id, sh!tting, p!ssing, screwing and drinking without regard to the norms of 'civilization.'|
|"Being a drunk takes endurance"||ColnagoFE|
Aug 26, 2002 12:24 PM
|wasn't that a quote from the movie Barfly? I've read that Bukowski is only drinking red wine now. I think about 6 bottles a day and popping vitamins to stay "healthy".|
Aug 26, 2002 12:48 PM
|"If you want to know who your friends are, get yourself a jail sentence."
Here's my favorite poem.
FRIENDLY ADVICE TO A LOT OF YOUNG MEN.
Go to Tibet.
Ride a camel.
Read the bible.
Dye your shoes blue.
Grow your beard.
Circle the world in a paper canoe.
Subscribe to the Saturday Evening Post.
Chew on the left side of you mouth only.
Marry a woman with one leg and shave with a straight razor.
And carve your name in her arm.
Brush your teeth with gasoline.
Sleep all day and climb trees at night.
Be a monk and drink buckshot and beer.
Hold you head under the water and play violin.
Do a belly dance before pink candles.
Kill you dog.
Run for mayor.
Live in a barrel.
Break your head with a hatchet.
Plant tulips in the rain.
But don't write poetry.
BTW, he croaked back in '94
|didn't realize he died...||ColnagoFE|
Aug 26, 2002 1:34 PM
|i assume some alcohol or cigarette induced illness?|
Sep 10, 2002 4:21 AM
|Bukowski would have loved road biking||carnageasada|
Aug 26, 2002 12:34 PM
|If he could have bet money on it.|
|Islands in the Stream. . .||js5280|
Aug 27, 2002 9:14 PM
|Ernest Hemingway. Just got to the second part set in Cuba tonight. Loved the part when Dave catches the fish, makes me want to go deep-sea fishing.
I tried to get through the Fountainhead (being a good Libertarian) a second time this summer but's just too long. I did really enjoy it though. I don't read for enjoyment very much so maybe I need some more training runs before taking on the ultra-endurance reads ;-)
|Against the Gods||daz I|
Aug 28, 2002 4:21 AM
|The remarkable story of risk by R. Beinsten
Just finished 'predators ball' and 'Liars Poker'
Lined up for later are' The Money Masters' and then I need to finish 'When Victims become Killers' an analysis of teh Rwandan killings.