|Poll: Do you believe in God or not?||spankdoggie|
Aug 12, 2002 3:23 PM
|I believe in God. How about you?|
|Put me down as a believer.||firstrax|
Aug 12, 2002 4:22 PM
|Define God.||Len J|
Aug 12, 2002 4:52 PM
|What type of God are you asking me if I believe in?
Is it the same God you believe in, Does it have to be?
If You asked this of an ancient Mayan ("Do you believe in God?)he/she would answer yes and yet you might judge that who they believe in is not really God.
So I ask again, be more specific in asking me in what I believe.
Aug 12, 2002 6:20 PM
|Let's not go back to kindergarten, Len.
Remember that philosophy is the study of questions, not the search for answers.
Study questions all you want, Len J... I don't care...
I just asked for a simple yes or no.
God = A creator of all things. Pretty simple...
|Maybe for the simple. nm||Len J|
Aug 12, 2002 6:47 PM
|See that's the problem..........||Len J|
Aug 12, 2002 6:52 PM
|You want the world to be simple when it really isn't.
Creator in what sense? In the sense of the literal interptretation of the Bible, or as the creative force behind all things? These can be both the same and fundamentally different depending on your intention.
When you ask a serios, thoughtful question, you will get an answer in kind.
|I guess my question is too hard for Len J...||spankdoggie|
Aug 12, 2002 7:07 PM
|Just ignore my thread if you are confused.|
|No,I guess my question is too hard for sdoggie....||Len J|
Aug 13, 2002 5:01 AM
|so I'm sure he'll ignore it.
|No,I guess my question is too hard for Len...||spankdoggie|
Sep 22, 2003 12:02 AM
|No. I think you are a jackass. Thanks for the one liner, and for ignoring my question.
Thanks for playing Len.
Aug 13, 2002 4:28 AM
|I don't believe in God in the broadest sense of the word, which I believe is what the original poster is asking. Len J., philosophy is what people study on their way to hell, don't get too thoughtful about it. You either accept faith as a means to understanding the universe, which leads most people to a belief in a God or Gods, or you don't. Which is it with you? I'm an agnostic so I reject faith and necessarily any belief in God.|
|You misunderstand my intentions.||Len J|
Aug 13, 2002 5:05 AM
|Spankdoggie is & has been a troll who always seems to have an alterior motive in his/her "Question" (IMO). My "Denseness" is intentional, just giving him/her a taste of his/her own medicine.
I'll be better now.
|Don't be better now||PaulCL|
Aug 13, 2002 5:39 AM
|Len J ....I think you bring up some good points. The "god" that I do or do not believe in is completely different than the belief of the person next to me. We all have a different concept.
Is "God" the all-powerful, vengeful god of right wing christian fundamentalists?? Is "God" Allah of Islam? or is "God" mother earth?? It is not a simple question.
|You're an aetheist.||Sintesi|
Aug 13, 2002 6:01 AM
|"I'm an agnostic so I reject faith and necessarily any belief in God."
Agnosticism is not rejection; it is non-commitment to either a belief in God or a disbelief in God. It is neutrality on the issue in the lieu of the fact there is no way of knowing one way or the other.
Aug 13, 2002 6:29 AM
|I don't deny the possibility that Gods may exist but I've seen no proof. I am open to believing Gods exist. But in lieu of convincing evidence I'm going to say I don't believe in Gods (agnosticism), not that Gods don't exist (atheism).|
|Look it up.||Sintesi|
Aug 13, 2002 7:05 AM
|To assert "I don't believe in Gods" is not agnosticism. To be agnostic you can't assert one way or the other, nor can you reject either. Agnosticism is also holds that these questions are ultimately unknowable - your belief that there may be proof of God prevents you from being agnostic. You currently do not believe, but are willing to accept there may be proof of God in the future so I would place you as an open minded athiest.|
Aug 13, 2002 7:45 AM
|based on the dictionary definition of agnosticism as it relates to belief in God (Encarta). However, my understanding of agnosticism comes from reading the essays of T.H. Huxley who was one of if not the original exponent of the philosophy of agnosticism (late 19th century). Which basically says that it is wrong to assert that something is known when it's not been proven in the scientific sense of the word (I don't know why agnosticism as defined in the dictionary requires the belief that God is ultimately unknowable?). So I guess I'm an old-school agnostic but I like the label open-minded atheist, as well.|
|I woke up feeling pedantic.||Sintesi|
Aug 13, 2002 9:22 AM
|Huxley coined the term in the first place, didn't he? I guess that gives you a by. ; )|
|What's your drift? Why do you care? nm||Sintesi|
Aug 13, 2002 6:15 AM
Aug 13, 2002 7:07 AM
|Lord knows. nm||DougSloan|
Aug 13, 2002 8:39 AM