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T de F -- Hats off for the National Anthem?(5 posts)

T de F -- Hats off for the National Anthem?ms
Aug 3, 2002 5:29 PM
Last Sunday, I was in Paris for the final stage of the Tour de France. When the National Anthem (i.e., the US National Anthem) was played during the awards ceremony none of the Americans I saw on the street removed their caps or hats. (I assume that most of the people near me and across the Champs Elysees who were waving US flags and Lone Star flags, wearing oversized cowboy hats and otherwise decked out in red, white and blue were from the United States.) Shouldn't one take off one's hat when the National Anthem is played -- especially when it is your National Anthem that is being played in another country? I am not the wrap-oneself-in-the-flag patriotic type. I even think that flag burners have a constitutional right to do what they do even though I disagree with them. But I was bothered that these ostensibly patriotic (jingoistic?) Americans failed to observe what I always believed was a basic sign of respect for the country. Am I crazy or do I have a point?
You have a point.firstrax
Aug 3, 2002 7:59 PM
Even rednecks remove their Skoal caps at NASCAR events.
sexismDougSloan
Aug 5, 2002 7:54 AM
Civilian men should remove hats and place over left shoulder with hand over heart as flag is raised (usually in conjunction with playing National Anthem). If no hat, just place palm over heart.

Ladies leave formal hats (with hat pins, etc.) on. However, if they are wearing regular baseball caps and the like, they remove them just like the men.

Doug
No ladies with hat pins on the Champs Elyseesms
Aug 5, 2002 8:00 AM
I did not see any ladies with formal hats held in place by hat pins when the National Anthem was played. (No one was wearing white gloves, either.) The headgear that sparked my post largely consisted of cycling caps, baseball caps and cowboy hats.
you would think...mr_spin
Aug 5, 2002 8:13 AM
Some of these people may not have been taught to remove their caps. However, seeing Lance standing on the podium, cap removed and held over his chest, you would think they would at least do what he does!!!

By the way, at the New York race on Sunday, all the riders I could see removed their helmets! True, some of them hadn't put them on yet, but the guys in the front row actually took them off.