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On the topic of new parents:(10 posts)

On the topic of new parents:MXL02
Jul 31, 2002 6:39 AM

Does this strike a familiar chord?
sounds about rightDougSloan
Jul 31, 2002 7:00 AM
I never imagined the quantity of sleep deprivation or the effect. It's a real struggle. It not only affects my ability to think at work, but it affects my riding, too.

I've read that human growth hormone, which helps to repair the body, is only produced during sleep. Less sleep equals less hormone and less repair. Less repair means less ability to recover from each workout.

Last Saturday I had planned to do the Climb to Kaiser here in Fresno. It's my favorite event that I look forward to all year, and I've done it the past three years. After preparing the best I could, but still expecting to be slow this year, and even after checking in the night before, my wife was so tired that she needed me to stay up with the baby and take care of him that night and the next day. This really disappointed me, but I did it. Lost my $65 entry fee and the opportunity to do my favorite event over one night's sleep. That's how important sleep is.

Newborns are really hard to take care of, by far the hardest thing we've ever done. Training for and doing RAAM would be easier. I'm getting a vasectomy soon.

Don't do itPaulCL
Jul 31, 2002 7:39 AM
I mean the vasectomy.

My oldest turns ten today and it seems like yesterday that she was born. Amazing how fast time flies. Of course, she's a bit bigger now, has pierced ears, and I rarely change a diaper (she would "have a cow" if she read that one).

If you can get through the first few months of sleep deprivation, you can do anything. I know. I did it three times. Child #1 slept through the night after 8 weeks, #2 - 8 months! #3 - 8 weeks. It is hard to function on no sleep - but hey, that's what expresso is for!!

Enjoy it. Paul

P.S. I had the vasectomy after #3. Stupidly, I rode four days after the vasectomy - now that's pain!
vasectomy after #2...ColnagoFE
Jul 31, 2002 9:09 AM
two boys is plenty. it's also really nice not to have to worry about "accidents" anymore.
They are only newborns for little while...MXL02
Jul 31, 2002 7:58 AM
and the next thing you know you will be at their graduation, remembering how they slept in you your arms only a short time ago.
next thing they are punching the neighbor kid in the gutColnagoFE
Jul 31, 2002 9:12 AM
and you gotta go over to an irate neighbor's house to get your kid to apologize. oh the joys of fatherhood! it was a fun night last night to say the least. just when you think you have them figured out...
try l-glutamine supplementation?ColnagoFE
Jul 31, 2002 9:08 AM
i take about 5 grams at night and 5 grams in the morning to help with recovery from riding and weightlifting. you take it on an empty stomach so i do it right after i wanke up and abefore i go to bed at night. l-glutamine is supposed to increase HGH at night. seems to really help me with recovery in general and much less sore a day or two after lifting weights. do a search for it on google. you'll find tons of info.
Jul 31, 2002 2:39 PM
"I'm getting a vasectomy soon."

Yeah, that's what I said (well, not exactly vasectomy) for two years after my first was born. It's easier the second time around. I say that now - after only 4 weeks. Ask me again in a few months... This one IS the last, though. Pregnancy is WAY too hard on me.
Aug 1, 2002 5:08 AM
We got a bunch of small families on this board! No stopping the fun early in this family. My wife says she'll draw the line at 10, though I doubt we have enough time to get that far without fertility drugs... :) Our first is 13 months and STILL not sleeping through the night. Well, she WAS, but now she's not again. It is tough, but so worth it.
re: On the topic of new parents:kyvdh
Aug 7, 2002 6:52 PM
Well, some things on these forums are way out of my league. I don't race much, I can't keep up with all the replies to creation vs evolution (some day I'll respond to some of what was said), but when it comes to kids, well I have 8 so far and wouldn't trade a one of them. The first six months were always the hardest for me because there seemed to be so little reward for a lot of work. But after that when they start to respond more, get there first belly laugh, sleep with their little butt sticking up in the air, run to you for a hug when you come home from the most awful day at work in the history of mankind, there's nothing better. Well of course there's your teenage boy saving up from his first job to buy a Giant OCR3 and being glad the 2002 model didn't fit and that the 2003 model looks almost like Dad's OCR1. Or seeing 3 boys out in front of you going for an after supper ride and all of them wearing red jerseys, black shorts and loving it because they want to be like Dad. Or maybe it's those birthdays when they all sing happy birthday to you and it's sooooo loud. Or it's just the rituals of saying goodnight (kind of like the Walton's). Man, there are so many more. No doubt there are times when its tough (160 toe/fingernails to cut, 7-8 gallons of milk a day, tons of laundry, will they be a benefit or drain on society when they are grown). Fortunately I believe in a God who sovereignly chose to give us these children and with the responsibility also gives grace (God's help when we need it) to make it through the tough times and to forgive and correct for the mistakes I invariably make. Well, I love our kids.

By the way, we put our kids on schedules very early in their lives (after demand feeding the first two kids and being sleep deprived for 4 years). A good book that we used as a guide is "Baby Wise". I believe the authors are Gary and Anne Marie Ezzo. It has gotten some bad press because of people who get overly strict with it but it sure helped us out.

Enjoy those kids. Keep your relationship with your wife a priority. Let the kids be welcome members but not the center of your life.