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Attack on July 4th??? Just a Thought...(7 posts)

Attack on July 4th??? Just a Thought...jrm
Jun 21, 2002 9:44 AM
Do you really think the US will be attacked on July 4th, The rational being that this day is symbolic of our contries freedom. And to attack the US on such a day would a profound justure given the days symbolic nature in US history.

Sept 11th however has no symbolic significance in relation to our countries freedom. It was the anniversary of the Carter Adminstirations Camp David Accord when we sided with Israel. But the object of the attack was something symbolic of our success as a secular nation.

In short im more concerned with what anniversaries are coming up in the history of middle east wars, accords and such where the US sided with israel instead of the 4th of July.

Im speculating here..but is the current admistration using this "fear" tactic to gain public support for a unilaternal strike against iraq or a defense build-up. Both of which stink of Detente' and 1980's International Relations Policy?
I say noKristin
Jun 21, 2002 10:41 AM
I don't pretend to have a keen grasp of politics, so I don't know anything about tactics and ploys in Washington. It seems to me that terrorists, activists and malitia's tend to strike out on dates that symbolize their own cause and struggle. I don't think that the middle east his anti-American because we are free. Too attack us on the 4th wouldn't make a strong statement regarding their cause.

I know this much. They've prooven they are cunning and intelligent. I doubt anyone will see it coming. We will stumble past the second attack, scratching our heads bewilderment over how we'd been stumpted again. Its just the nature of things.

I'm excited about the Homeland Security Dept. Two days after the attacks, I began to hope for something like this. I really hope that it becomes more of a think tank than a police agency!!! There is phenomina that occurs among inventors--it's sometimes referred to as "a race to the patent office." Basically, innovators with seemingly no connection will tend to achive identical ideas at approximatly the same time. This, of course, happens within the field the inventor was working in. I fully believe that we could have seen 9/11 coming if there had been a group of talented innovators who were dedicated to thinking up ways to attack countries (not even our own.) We didn't see it coming because the terrorists were the only ones on task.
Jun 21, 2002 10:49 AM
I'm a little confused following your post, but it doesn't matter. There are only two possible outcomes:

1. there is an attack on July 4th
2. there isn't an attack on July 4th

I'm not worrying about either one. There isn't a whole lot I can do about it. If terrorists want to get me, they'll get me. I'm not going to live in fear or obsess about it. I'm not going to build any walls. I'm not going to acquire a personal arsenal. I'm not going to hide behind my couch with CNN on 24 hours a day.

I'm going to live my life as best I can for as long as it lasts. It's all I can do.

To answer one of your other questions, OF COURSE!! Of course the administration will try to build fear to gain support for whatever they want to do.
Bingo!...Jon Billheimer
Jun 21, 2002 10:57 AM jrm's last point. GWB's foreign and military policies become more and more unilateralist and less and less rational, in my opinion. This administration is making use of fear-propaganda, the likes of which we haven't seen since the '50s and early '60s.

I think they are disingenuous and disimulating to an extreme degree, all in a pretty transparent attempt to justify unbridled military adventurism, not too dissimilar from Germany in the '30s. Welcome to George Orwell's worst nightmare. The pathetic thing about all this is is that so many people actually love Big Brother. It seems that we would gladly trade in our liberty and responsibility for critical thinking for the illusory guarantee of safety. My rant for the day!
Who said anything about worrying...jrm
Jun 21, 2002 2:00 PM
Im saying that the signals we are getting from the media/administration about a 4th of July attack, and the facts that surrounded the Sept. 11th dont make sense. because of the reasons i have stated. but you see those who dont know any better, beleive that shIt. And they are the majority in this, intellect of a 9th grader, populus

PS: i likedthe line about hiding behind the couch with CNN on 24/7.
Probably not, but another incident some time is likelyAllisonHayes
Jun 21, 2002 10:54 AM
and sooner rather than later.

I was talking with a friend who said there is a lot of activity within our military right now. It seems that they are getting geared up for something--and it is most likely will be a swift response to another incident. What kind of response? Iraq? Don't rule it out.
You don't think they'll hit Peavine Peak, do you?cory
Jun 21, 2002 11:05 AM
This whole thing has become such a weird combination of secrecy and vague, Bush-serving (but sweeping) public warnings that I don't even pay attention anymore. Might be different if I lived in a place likely to be attacked, but I don't expect they're going to hit Peavine Peak, just west of Reno, and that's where we'll be for the annual Fourth of July Neighborhood Pre-Barbecue Mountain Bike Ride.
Overheard an interesting discussion related to this this morning: 10 months later, has anything that happened on Sept. 11 really changed your life? I have friends in New York and Washington who've been dramatically affected, but here in the West, it's hardly made a ripple for most people.