|are diet sodas really that bad for you? NM||Gall|
Apr 22, 2002 2:11 PM
|Nobody seems to know...||cory|
Apr 22, 2002 3:12 PM
|I drink a lot of 'em, and a couple of years ago I tried to track down studies to find out what's turned up over the 30 or so years they've been in common use. There are studies both ways, most of them based on either massive doses in animals (the equivalent of dozens or hundreds of drinks a week) or looks back at humans after they develop problems, not the best way to study stuff like that. Don't remember exactly, but it seems to me there was a rise in bladder cancer and maybe stomach cancer--but there was also an increase in cancer among people who drank a lot of water, too, presumably because of exposure to the chemicals in municipal water supplies. It was enough to make me cut back, but pretty soon I could hear that Pepsi calling....|
|re: are diet sodas really that bad for you? NM||peloton|
Apr 22, 2002 3:24 PM
|I had a conversation not too long ago with a friend who has a Phd in kinesiology about the glycemic index and metabolism, glucose, insulin, etc. In relation to diet soda, you body has an association with the sweet taste, and it's effects on blood sugar levels. The sweet taste makes the body believe that it is about to get a spike in blood sugar levels, and so it gets ready to deal with this situation by secreting insulin. Of course, there is no actual spike of the blood sugar, but now the insulin is here and does it's job. The insulin pulls blood sugar out of your bloodstream, and creates adipose tissue (fat), and makes you feel tired from the drop in blood sugar. This probably isn't real significant if you only drink a soda now and then, or unless you are anal about training. The other studies that I have seen in which the artificial sweetners like saccarine were proven to give cancer to rats were the equivilent of drinking something like 40 sodas a day for weeks on end. Diet sodas probably aren't going to kill you or anything, but there are better choices. I really prefer fruit juice. Soda tastes sickly sweet to me, and I know other people who feel this way after getting into the habit of non-consumption. Might work for you?|
|Read the book by Dr. Scott Connelly||PaulCL|
Apr 22, 2002 5:46 PM
|I can't remember the name, but I'll post it later. He basically agrees with all of the points peloton is making. How the sodas cue your body to secrete insulin leading to fat deposition. There is too much fructose and fructose substitues in our diets.
Personally, I gave up sodas as of Jan. 1 and haven't missed them at all. I used to drink maybe 4 or 5 per week, now I have none. They just can't be good for you, maybe not horribly bad, but not good for you. Not to pat myself on the back or anything, but I've only had two pops in four months and don't miss them at all. Really. Drink water. Drink juice. Drink wine. Drink beer...er...OK...that's bad too, but no one should go cold turkey.
Apr 23, 2002 12:20 AM
|watch what kind you pick, many have so much sugar/sweetner/additives that you might as well be better off with pop! :P|
|The book by Dr. Scott Connelly: Body Rx||PaulCL|
Apr 23, 2002 5:11 AM
|It's a diet book - but don't read it for the diet. It is an informative discussion of what we eat (as Americans) and what it does to us and for us. Sounds boring, but it isn't.
I couldn't follow the diet because it stresses an immense amount of protein in the diet in the latter stages. I'm sorry, but I just can't choke down 8 pieces of chicken per day.
The book goes over the fructose in our diets (pop, pop tarts, cereals, etc) and the over abundance of carboes (pre-ride is OK) and the small amount of fruits and veggies. It's made me think about what I eat. It's not enough to eat less, but you can eat more as long as its' the right stuff.
OK, I'll get down off my soap box now. Paul.
|Everything is bad for you||mr_spin|
Apr 23, 2002 8:51 AM
|There are plenty of books and studies claiming that basically everything is bad for you. I stopped listening a long time ago. I mean, what's left? Bugs and grasses?
All things in moderation. Eat and drink what you want. Get a reasonable amount of exercise. Die happy.
|Everything is bad for you||netso|
Apr 23, 2002 11:04 AM
|If you live long enough you will eventually die of something!|
|re: are diet sodas really that bad for you? NM||longfellow68|
Apr 24, 2002 2:58 AM
|Try this experiment. Leave a can of Diet anything outside in the summer and watch the bees land on it and then die right there on the can.
I saw this happen a couple of years ago on a Diet Mountain Dew can.. I won't touch Nutrasweet if it can be helped.
|Ever read the label on a diet soft drink container?||DINOSAUR|
Apr 24, 2002 8:12 AM
|What is all that stuff?|
|On the other hand,||mickey-mac|
Apr 24, 2002 8:22 PM
|have you ever read the ingredients on a good bottle of beer: water, barley, hops, and yeast.|
|I'll take a good beer over a diet soda any day NM||DINOSAUR|
Apr 25, 2002 12:02 PM
|GOOD POINT!!! Reinheitsgobot baby!!!||Sintesi|
Apr 25, 2002 12:50 PM
|Okay so I don't know how to spell it. German purity law since the 1500s.
Actually I think most domestic beers like Budweiser has water, barley, hops, yeast, and corn adjuncts or rice adjuncts they're not sure themselves.
|re: are diet sodas really that bad for you? NM||netso|
Apr 25, 2002 3:28 AM
|An experiment if you can find or have a young child who has just lost a tooth. Place a tooth in a glass of diet soda or any soda. Voila! 24-hours later, no tooth it is dissolved.|
|okay, stop it||mr_spin|
Apr 29, 2002 11:13 AM
|I hear about this "experiment" a lot. Unless you take a gulp of soda and hold it in your mouth without swallowing for 24 hours, there is no comparison.
Here's some more things to try:
- Fill a glass with milk. Place in hot sun. Come back in 24 hours. It will be rancid and disgusting. Stop drinking milk.
- Stick head in bathtub. Hold under for 24 hours. You'll be dead. Stop taking baths.